I have lived Off Grid for 3 years. AMA
Hello everyone, I've been living at my off grid cabin for 3 years now in the Canadian Wilderness (Ontario). I bought 180 acres of land and started building my cabin in 2015. I started living here fulltime in 2017. I have an investment in solar power that pays me like an annuity, but otherwise my fulltime job is a youtuber: https://www.youtube.com/raspberryrockoffgridcabin/. Ask me anything!
Please note: There are generally two types of definition for "off grid". One is what I call the movie definition, which is disconnected from society, unfindable. The more common one means that you're not connected to municipal services.
Just how many hot singles are in your area?
Are you kidding? There's naked beaver swimming by my cabin daily.
You're getting a sub for sheer good sense of humour sir
I'm the king of self deprecating humour as well, but only because I have so much material to work with.
I try self deprecating humour sometimes but it usually just makes people feel awkward when I do it.
I've learned to keep my pants on. Oh who am I kidding, no I haven't.
How long took it until you saw your cabin and thought: "this feels like home" Also could you describe what a normal day looks like?
It took a while. But check this: A couple months ago I had gone and spent a day with a buddy to film some stuff. I'm on my way back, riding my ATV in the dark toward the cabin. Like, really dark. Straight out of a spooky movie, right? But all I could think was, "Ah it's good to come home." My typical day is get up, marvel at everything. Have some breakfast. Think about doing something useful. Think about filming something for my youtube videos. Maybe binge watch something on netflix. And just do whatever.
Not discounting how awesome that is, hows the internet your way?
Got lucky with internet. Found a company that has an LTE tower not far away. I get 25Mb down, 1Mb up, and unlimited data. For $85/month. Pretty damn happy about that.
That's better than I get for less money and I live 10 minutes outside a city with 120k people...
Did I mention how lucky I am?
Loving the gratitude you exude.
Living the life. I have to be thankful.
Which company is that with? Seems better than the Dsl my parents get at their cottage
The company is called Xplornet. They're Canadian.
I'm also living at my cabin now, doing Reno's and finishing up a 2nd smaller cabin. Although mine is in the Gatineau mountains across from Ottawa...and also I just get money from unemployment insurance...and also I had to move here because I lost my job and couldn't afford the mortgage and my apartment rent...but it is beautiful here, everyday I wake up on top of my mountain and look out over a huge vista with a lake and the serrounding hills. Do some Reno's, play some banjo, maybe go swimming. Wish I could start a YouTube channel and just live here but they never seem to get more than a few views.
Youtube is a patience game, my friend. I have 270 videos and 21k subscribers. My only advice is to make every video better than the last. Make every thumbnail better than the last. And keep at it. Sounds like you've got a great place there.
Sounds like a wonderful time :))
I love it here.
Do you have battery backup connected to your solar system? Describe your power system in more detail.
How about water? Where does it come from? What system do you use for collecting/filtering/storing?
And gray/black water? Is the house plumbed to a septic tank?
How do you eat? Hunting? Trips to the grocery store?
If you want real detail on my solar setup, you can see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2gOy1162vE. But otherwise I have 2160W in panels, 8x600Ah batteries. And a generator for backup, mostly used in the winter. Water comes from rain barrels. Filtered for drinking. Gray water goes into the ground. Compost buckets for toilet needs. I still do grocery shopping like normal people. I hunt in hunting season.
That sounds super expensive! how much did that battery setup cost?
Yeah lead acid. I don't remember the sticker price, but I got them at cost, of course.
Why is that “of course”?
Because I co-owned a solar power company.
Gray water goes into the ground. Compost buckets for toilet needs.
Why that instead of a normal septic system, since you apparently aren't recycling the water anyway?
We're right on bedrock here and I can't get any heavy machinery in here to do any serious bedrock work.
What was the worst thing that happened while you were off-grid?
The worst part is that my wife still lives and works in the city. She comes out as often as she can but I miss her.
If you don’t mind answering, what made your wife decide to stay in the city instead of moving with you? And vice versa what made you move knowing your wife wasn’t coming?
Well she's only 4 years until she qualifies for early retirement. Hard to turn that down. And it just worked out that way, that I would work on the cabin and she would stay in the city. But she comes here as often as she can and we talk on the phone every day she's not here.
that's a super mature relationship! I admire you both!
It's funny, but it works.
How is she dealing with the current situation?
Interesting situation. I call her "City Girl" because she's only ever lived in the city. This whole nature thing freaked her out at first. But now she loves it here. She often talks about living here when she retires. I did not push her into that.
I think they meant given the current coronavirus situation.
Oh, well, she's working from home right now. Here!
Hopefully she'll be able to work from home more often in the future :)
That would be great. She can get a lot of work done here, maybe companies will be more open to 'work from home' times in the future.
My wife has been told she can work from home permanently now (before covid, that would have been out of the question. Now it’s a reality). It’s definitely not out of the question, anymore!
Nice! I'm hoping for just a couple days a week from home.
Wow with 25mb down internet
Ultimate man cave situation you have going
What proportion of your income comes from your investments? Many people want to live off-grid but don't own income-producing capital.
At the moment, about 60% comes from investment. But it will end one day and my youtube income will be all that I have.
Bro everything aside that’s incredibly bad method for your future. Start teleworking ASAP.
Oh I should have mentioned: my wife still works and when she retires she gets a gov pension.
so you have health insurance too.
Yes we have benefits.
How many pages is your manifesto? JK
It's actually just one line. "Enjoy life, bitches!"
Looking for a roommate? Haha. 180 acres is a lot of land
I'll start building an addition!
............ no but seriously. i'm very emotionally mature, very handy, love being in nature
Ah you know how many people want to come here to help out, have a beer, or whatever? I need to build a hotel, not an addition.
I'll bring my hammer, axe and brawn
Is brawn a dark beer? Haven't heard of it.
How much do you think your sense of humor helps the rough spots?
What rough spots?
Everyone has a day where more goes wrong than right. But I agree, where you are it's hard to have a bad BAD day. I spend a week in the Adirondack Mountains every year and it's hard to have a bad surrounded by that much natural beauty. But the day the starter broke off my boat in the middle of the lake.....
Oh yeah, there's been a few times where I was in tears and just wanted to torch the place. That hasn't happened in a long while. During those times I cry for a while, then get started on fixing whatever went wrong. I dunno how I got through those times.
Does anyone think you're mental? Or are you actually just really sane?
LOL my wife still likes me.
This is a good thing! Haha.
And for the record I am of the people who consider you very sane for turning your back on the vast amount of insanity that makes up most of the modern world and its societies.
Question: You didn't include in your intro bio your motivation(s) for going off-grid. Of course one can speculate on the various reasons that an adult who was born and raised in western society might have in bidding farewell to society, but what were/are your specific motivations for leaving and what are the goals you hope to achieve in doing so?
I lived in Toronto for many years and hated it. The noise, rude people, traffic, waiting in line ups, noise, expenses, noise, etc. I grew up in a very rural area where my backyard was a forest. I just wanted to leave the city behind and get away from it all. All that and I also have a prepper mindset. It's nice to have a place like this when the shit (cough corona cough) goes down.
Did you hate the noise though?
Oh thanks for reminding me. You know what I really hated? The noise.
Grow up on a city, but had to live kind of out if the grid for a while, is a kind of interesting experience. Too much noise, pollution and problems on the cities ...
Yeah I hate everything about the city. Except for pizza delivery. That part was okay.
How much does your YouTube account actually bring in?
About $1000/month right now. Not counting other revenue streams like affiliate links, live streams, donations, product sponsors, etc.
You can get 1K a month from 20K subscribers? I should make a youtube channel.
I get a LOT of views for the subscribers I have. But it also took me 270 videos to get here.
I respect your dedication, man. I moved to a city for university about 2 years ago after living in a small town my whole life, and I had the same realisation as you about how much I despised all of it. Now I'm in a situation where I really need to play the game so I can get enough money to get away from the game. Here's hoping it doesn't suck my soul away!
Why did you go off the Grid and what do you do for money? Also how are you on reddit?
I lived in the city for many years and hated everything about it. Just wanted to get away. I have an investment in solar power that pays me like an annuity, and my youtube channel pays me as well. I have internet here, just got lucky that way.
I have an investment in solar power that pays me like an annuity
I don't understand this part. If you aren't connected to an electrical grid, no one is paying you for the power your system generates. Or are you meaning that based on what you would have paid for electricity in the city, eventually the solar system will be paid off and you'll have free power?
In Ontario, for a short time, there was a program where you could build a solar power system and get a contract from the government to sell the electricity back to the grid. You could do it on your own home or you could go a little more commercial, rent a rooftop, and put up a large system. I still own a larger system. The contract lasts for 20 years.
Ah, so this larger solar system is not on-site at the cabin. I remember that program - the gov was paying more per solar KW/h than they were charging residential grid-tied customers. Didn't seem self sustaining and after a short time those rates started to climb.
Yes originally it was 80.2c/kWh which was a lot. The idea was that eventually the price would come down, our rates would go up, and it would all make sense. Anyway the change in provincial gov stopped the program. But I still got my contract.
Holy crap, that's a lot (I'm assuming the c means cents). I'm paying about US$0.123/kWh to a private power company.
Yeah I think it's similar here, I guess. And yeah 80c was a lot. It came down fast though. In the end I think it was around 35c. Maybe less.
How much did the land cost you? What legal issues did you have to face? Thanks
The land was $35k. The only challenge I had was getting a building permit, which I eventually got because I was able to demonstrate that I had water access.
There's is SO much cheap private land in Canada. It's definitely the permits and access that is a killer from my research. We are thinking about getting a cabin somewhere in BC, but will wait for citizenship next year else the foreign owners tax will sting hard even with PR. Very cool man! You only get one life!
Have you seen people living on, essentially, house boats in the rivers in BC? Pretty neat stuff. Lots of youtube videos on them.
Pardon my asking but how does one prove that you have access to water? Did you have to dig a well or something to show that it’s potable?
I pointed to a stream on a map and said, "See? Water access." and he said, "Great!"
What type of wildlife do you most frequently see?
Every day we see: beavers, muskrats, herons, cranes, geese, ducks. Occasionally we see: otters, deer. Much more infrequently we also see elk, bears, coyotes, and... probably a lot of other things I can't think of off the top of my head.
Any mountain lions?
Not that I've seen or on the trailcams. I heard reports that there was one by the nearest town.
Do you have any regrets? Do you miss any ‘home comforts’?
No regrets at all. But yeah there amenities I miss, like ordering pizza. I think running water is the biggest thing I miss.
I'm in the process of planning my off grid cabin and I decided instead of paying an arm and a leg on having a well dug I'm just going to buy a water cistern and use a pump like an RV/boat would have. a few hundred dollars gets you a several hundred gallons in storage and then you just need a pump. my property does have a stream I can collect water from though so it also saves me from hauling it or collecting rainwater.
Yeah without some serious exploding stuff, I can't really dig a cistern. A running stream is nice.
Explosions get views though. "How to dig a well in 1/100th of a second"
Views and police activity. LOL.
You mentioned that you have to cross other people's land to access your 180 acres. Do you worry about a future neighbour denying you passage? Or do have a deeded right of way?
LOL it just sort of happened, actually. And I'm in the process of making a new trail. We have no great way of getting here.
Oh, that's too bad. You also mentioned water access? Maybe you could buy an Argo XTV (they float).
Getting an argo is my backup backup plan. Hate to do it, they're so expensive. But damnit, I like living here.
That feeling of tearing across a frozen lake, knowing that if you crack through the ice, hey, at least you float! :p
In all seriousness, walking the beaver ponds in the winter is totally awesome. Like someone put a city sidewalk through our property.
How much blood do you estimate you donated to Ontarios official bird?
More than my fair share, I'm sure.
Do you worry about having an accident immobilising you somewhere on your land and nobody discovering you for weeks?
Naw you can't worry about stuff like that, anymore than you should worry about getting hit by a car crossing the street. Just enjoy it.
Thanks for doing the AMA and for replying. I’d love to be off grid some day!
No problemo! Start planning now!
Do you have helicopter insurance? I had it living in the San Juan's in Washington State....was a leg saver when I fractured my leg in 3 spots and almost lost my foot (blood flow cut off to foot).
No helicopter insurance but.... this is Canada man. I just have to call up and say "SEND THE CHOPPA!"
Why did I read that in an ElectroBOOM voice?
I have that power.
Do you always have paranoia about uncontrollable risks?
I’m surprised how common this sort of thing has become in society just during my lifetime.
Movies don't help.
How do you handle waste? Garbage, dirty water, food, human.
I burn garbage that burns. Other stuff has to go back to town. Grey water just goes in the ground. We have a compost bin. And a compost toilet.
Did you design your house? If so did you get advice from any builders or architects?
I designed it all in google sketchup. No experience, I just watched a lot of youtube videos. Ie: how to install windows, how to do framing, how to install metal roof, etc. It's easier in that, since it's a hunt camp, I didn't have to worry about electrical/plumbing/etc.
How to install windows
Why not use Linux instead?
How do you keep your rainwater fresh? How do you clean the tanks?
We have a rainwater system, but it was honestly not done right.. mosquitoes got in the tanks and you know how that goes.
We have a well now, but still have those tanks sitting there.
I keep the barrels covered, add a little bleach. But mostly when I see a lot of rain in the forecast, I empty and clean them. Also, cleaning the gutters is key. I'd kill to have a well here.
There’s no way to dig out a well? Is it not feasible because it’s too difficult to get heavy equipment there to do it or because the water is too far down?
We're on the Canadian Shield here, so yeah bedrock. And getting here is out of the question for real heavy machinery.
Wells are very very common even on the shield but yes you need the gear. But filtered lake water - is the power cost on that too high for your setup? Former north of 7 cottager here.
I'm sure there's a filter that would work for our setup, but the problem is the winter time. I can't bury any pipes and I don't have the power to keep them heated.
Do any have any medium or long term projects for/in the land, or are you happy with it as is?
The land? I really appreciate the pristine beauty of it. I mean I like it just the way it is. I hope to build a workshop here eventually, but... well other than that I want to build a couple of overnight bunkies in a couple spots across the property.
I want to build a couple of overnight bunkies in a couple spots across the property.
Planning on an off-grid B&B?
The thought had entered my mind. I could set up a few bunkies for people. But I don't know if I want people coming here.
Have any bears come after you?
No but there are bears on the property. They're timid creatures by nature, just don't surprise them.
Makes sense also what's your closest call in terms of danger weather etc?
I was scouting the property north of me looking for elk sign, and using my phone as a GPS. It was heavily overcast. I got turned around 3 times trying to get back home, and my phone battery was showing 5%.... 4%..... 3%.... 2%.... at 1% I came across a familiar part of my property. I was shitting a small brick. Also, it was starting to get dark.
Shit that must have been scary glad you made out, did you change the way you hunt afterwards?
I dug out my compass, LOL.
Why live off grid?
I lived in the city for years (Toronto) and hated everything about. Traffic, noise, rushing around, rude people, noise, noise, waiting in line ups, noise, etc. Just wanted to get away from it all. Plus in the back of my mind I worried about world-changing events (cough corona cough) and wanted to be a little more prepared.
Surely there’s a midway between Toronto and off-grid... like, living in a smaller town or quiet suburb. And if that’s not enough, a farm somewhere away from people, but with communal services like water and electricity.
In Finland it’s quite common (for those so inclined) to buy and bankrupt farm or closed village school and work in IT or advertising from distant. Then you can have as additional income some organic farming, tourism and such businesses.
Absolutely there are some mid-way solutions that a lot of people would be happy with. Personally I'm a person of extremes. And I like having no neighbours. And no traffic outside my window. Unless you count beavers.
What do you use for internet access?
I got really really lucky. When I bought the property I had no idea I'd ever want internet here. When I decided to look into it, I found a company called Xplornet had an LTE tower not far away. I get 25Mb down, 1Mb up, and unlimited data. So very happy about that.
What's your monthly bill?
Any problem streaming video with respect to the weather?
$85/month, well worth it. I do have issues sometimes streaming, but it's not usually weather related. Oddly, it's best when it's raining.
Keep an eye on Starlink if you aren't already. That's supposed to (roughly) be the price for service when it's fully up and running.
Is that a near-earth satellite network? Yeah that'll be cool.
How did you go about finding and acquiring the land?
Months of sitting on realtor.ca and kijiji. I had my criteria written down and I went to see a bunch of different properties. It's a patience game.
Any advice you would give to someone who wants to do the same thing, having gone through it yourself?
Start planning right now. Make your criteria list. Save money. Load up realtor.ca every once in a while and see what's out there. Go visit some properties so you have an idea what you're gonna like/ not like.
Realistically, how long are the winters up there? And about how much down can i put on some solar investments cause I’m ready for that too.
I actually enjoy winter more than summer here. Winter isn't nearly as bad as in the city. Unless we get tons of snow. Which can be a pain. For a solar system like mine you're looking at $12 to 15k. Not cheap.
Plans for future? How long do you expect to be out there? Any plans to upgrade things like water access, or even relocating to larger/better cabin and land? Or do you see this as a phase before returning to ‘normal’ life with the wife?
Plans? I want to build a proper workshop. It's a paradise here I want to live here until I literally can't. There's nowhere else I'd rather be.
That’s great! I build lithium batteries for energy storage and mobility applications (ebike, scooters). My battery shop is fully off-grid, which means I have a self-sustaining way to harvest and repurpose used lithium batteries. Also have part of my house connected to solar: 4kW array and 19kWh 48v lithium bank I built from BMW i3 cells. I also have another ~15kWh in loose 18650s waiting be assembled for various projects. I’ll definitely have to check out your page.
What is your solar setup? I.e., solar array, inverter, battery type and size, voltage, BMS if lithium, etc.
If you want all the gory detail, then check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2gOy1162vE. Not too far off what you have, actually. I've got a lifepo4 power wall on order from a Chinese company so I'll be putting that in as soon as I get it. My batteries are very near end-of-life, in fact one of them is already b0rked. I've seen some 18650 projects. Looks interesting.
Is off grid cheaper than on it with the maintenance/fuel costs?
Oh hell yeah. Well, wait, maintenance/fuel? Certainly cheaper on regular bills, but then everything is a little more work here. Ie: I don't have to pay for water, but it's work to collect and filter rain water.
Would it be viable to install a borehole for water?
Can't get the heavy equipment out here to do it.
I live out in the boonies as well. I was surprised by some of the places the rigs can get to drill wells. They can put in a well pretty much anywhere you can drive a minivan to. If you can get a car to within a tenth mile of your home, you could have the well pump into an insulated cistern, then run a line from the cistern to your residence for water in your residence.
Alternatively, we have some seeps on our land, and were told that those are a good place to try and dig a well by hand since a seep is an indication that the water table is near the surface, so you'd only have to go down a few feet for reliable water.
I own an FJ Cruiser and I wouldn't get that thing a quarter of the way down the trail. No way some big machinery is gonna make it here, unless by helicopter.
How much have you invested to buy the land, build the house, etc?
The land was $35k. I know, I know, ridiculously low. But there are trade offs. There's no real access here, I have to cross other people's properties on ATV. You can't log it, can't mine it. It was hell getting a building permit. So like, reasons, right? The cabin was probably under $50k. Factor in ATV, tools, solar power system, and it's all under say $120k.
How long did it take to get a building permit? I've been wanting do build an off grid home for a long time and the thing that I'm worried most are the permits for everything.
Almost didn't get one. I was shut down time after time. Then someone suggested I try 'Water access' since I had a small stream on the property. It worked! LOL
Damn that's insanely cheap, especially in Canada bucks. When you say you can't log it are you permitted to clear an area around your cabin for fire prevention and safety? Like a 50 meter radius or something.
Yah I meant it's really really difficult for logging companies to take out trees. I can clear whatever I want. I take down trees for firewood and for making ATV trails.
I got tired of all the crying.
I've been very interested in this sort of life, but my one leash to civilization is the internet. You mentioned binging Netflix.... what do you do for internet and how expensive is it?
Just got lucky. Discovered a company called Xplornet has an LTE tower not that far away. I get 25Mb down, 1Mb up, and unlimited data. So very happy, so very lucky. Oh and $85/month. Totally worth it.
What type of music do you like music to listen to while you’re enjoying the view?
Here's a playlist I play during live streams: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ptGMRtrqFNUNOL8qLixBt?si=fNUhtux_RUiwSqHTuHpmNQ
Hey, I have few questions:
How long is the drive to the nearest civilization (shop and/or neighbours) on a ATV?
Do you plan to expand your cottage or what you have is big enough?
It's a 30 minute ATV ride, then a 15 minute car ride to get to the nearest town. I can't expand the cabin because the building permit only allows a max of 800 sq ft. I could potentially get another permit and build another cabin but I doubt I will.
How often do you go to town for a supply run?
As often as I need. I mean let's be honest, when you're running out of coffee, cream, eggs, bacon, whatever, you're headed to town, amiright?
Did you purchase this land or inherit it? Either way did you have to do any extra stuff like zoning and development licensing? I want to purchase a plot out west some where, but know there are several things that have to do with the land itself that come into play. Did you deal with that? Do you pay property tax? Did it increase as you developed the land?
I purchased it for $35k. The cabin is technically a hunt camp, so there's very little in the building code I have to deal with. Property tax was originally about $160/year but jumped up to $800 something when the cabin was built. (bastards)
My thought would be septic and a well or cistern? Solar for energy as well? Also I always wanted to have a summer home like this. Can you recommend a place? Do you like where your location is? If you were to start again or give advice what about location and zoning may be important to know?
We're on the Canadian Shield here so it would be really difficult to dig a well or cistern. We have solar power and it's great most of the time. I do like the location, it's Eastern Ontario. You do want to make sure you can get a building permit.
how’d you work around the winter weather when you built the cabin?
Oddly enough, I thought I was going to fly all the materials in by helicopter and build it over the winter. Turns out that building in the winter totally sucks. Also living in a tent in the winter sucks. I started building in July and had enough completed that I moved in in ... September? Got my wood stove in by November, so I was good.
What’s your water source?
Rain water mainly. Or snow in the winter. We also bring water from town in big jugs for backup.
As you’ve mentioned you’ve bought a lot of land, how would you feel if you ever came across someone else living “off-grid” somewhere on your land?
I ask, as I’ve watched the Bald and Bankrupt YouTube channel quite often and he’s met a few people living similarly (not by choice) and there’s always camaraderie with strangers. I’m guessing off-grid Canadians would be very much the same!
Side question: any good fishing nearby?
Well, there's liability to consider. I'd ask the person to leave, but it would only mean crossing the property line to someone else's property. There's tons of properties around here that aren't used for anything.
Hi Rock! Love your story. I bought my second house very close to downtown Boulder Creek, CA in November, and although it is completely on-grid right now, I do want to convert it to be as off grid as possible. Could you possibly give any tips on making this happen? I live by 3 rivers that I could potentially draw water from, a decent amount of sunlight despite the redwoods, and about a half acre of land.
Oy well that's a much longer conversation. Solar is wonderful but it's expensive. Look up ram pump for your stream. Um, I'd hit up youtube and look for ideas in videos.
Here, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXCtI3cVY98
Oops, you meant the video!
You don't have to be specific but where abouts in Ontario? Timmins? Soo? Kenora? How far north we talking?
Not far from Madoc.
What do you appreciate more now you're off the grid?
Social interaction. There's nobody out here. But I'm a bit of a loner anyways. And youtube brings me closer to people.
Are you Tom Mabe?
Damn that dude looks like me!
Roughly how much money does a person need to buy 180 acres in remote Ontario?
Bought this for $35k. It's land locked and really hard to get here, and the previous owner thought it was impossible to get a building permit. That's why it was so cheap.
I skimmed thru the thread to try and see if you answered this. So sorry if you already have. Do you have any type of permaculture going? What is your access to food like? Are you growing most of it yourself?
Food doesn't grow well around here. We're on the Canadian Shield, very little arable land. We have a garden but I don't expect it to do well. So yeah we still hit the grocery store.
Hey, I think it's really cool what you've done. I've been interested in going off the grid the past number of years, but i feel like losing my job has thrown a spanner in the works in regards to financing it. My plan now is to basically start camping all over the place looking for an ideal plot of land, and then marking it out while i buy resources etc. However it's unlikely to be for the next while.
A couple of questions that you may or may not be able to answer, then.
1) What items do you recommend if i will be camping for a week or so at a time?
2) how did you go about starting this project off? Like, how did you start going about building your cabin from the start?
3) How safe is completely 'living off the land'?
So you don't have the property yet? 1. Camping wise.... Get a two burner coleman propane stove for your cooking. Um, the rest is just.. camping gear? Get a solar charger for your phone/laptop. 2. After I purchased the land, one of the first things I did was set up a carport/shelter so I could live in it and keep a lot of my tools and crap in it. I highly recommend doing this. I built a bed out of 2x4 and plywood and that was really good idea too. Sleeping on the ground sucks after a while. 3. How safe is it? Not sure what you mean. I feel just as safe here as I did in the city. A lot safer, actually.
Sad attempt to promote a youtube channel. Some rich kid buys 180 acres in the woods. Still has to pay taxes. Still uses the internet. Rides around on ATV. Tries to define it as not being connected to municipal services. What a joke. Where you're getting your internet access from buddy? Where are you getting your gas for your atv?
He literally answered all these questions in above posts you asshat.
"asshat" is such a wonderful term. I need to use it more often.
Are you tired of swiping left on the same three people that are 100 miles away from you?
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