UPDATE: 3 p.m. It's been fun y'all, but I've gotta go do some work. Be good to each other!

We’re days removed from one of the most contentious elections in U.S. history and Democratic candidate Joe Biden was elected the 46th president of the U.S. Instrumental to Biden’s victory were wins in key battleground states that in 2016 voted for the Republican Party. One of those states was Georgia, a state that had not gone blue in the presidential elections since 1992 when Bill Clinton beat George H.W. Bush. The margin of victory in the Peach State was so slim that the state has said there will be a recount.The Savannah Morning News newspaper is one of the oldest newspapers in the state and its politics team has had a front row seat to everything that led to last week’s elections, including two senate races that are headed a runoff in January. Adam Van Brimmer is our Editorial Page Editor and host of our podcast The Commute and Will Pebble is our enterprise and politics reporter.

Follow the Savannah Morning News’ coverage here.

How Joe Biden turned Georgia purple: A closer look at the campaign in a battleground state

Counties other than Fulton make big difference for Joe Biden in Georgia election results

Georgians will decide nation’s balance of power with Senate runoff votes

Chatham County judge dismisses Trump campaign, Georgia GOP lawsuit against elections board

Rise in absentee voting due to COVID will shape future of process in Georgia

Podcast: Election Day 2020 a day to remember

Proof: https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20201107/join-savannah-morning-news-for-reddit-ama-on-monday-to-talk-election-2020-in-georgia

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personalpunch61 karma

Hey there!

I was wondering how absentee voting was perceived overall in Georgia? Positive or negative responses from the people of Georgia? I ask as an Oregon voter since we’ve been using mail in voting for decades I’m curious if mail in will become the norm (or at least an option) in Georgia.

SavannahNow65 karma

The pandemic really threw a wrench in the works for Georgia, and a lot of people had to learn about the absentee process quickly. For the June 9 primary, the SOS mailed a request out to every registered active voter. We've had no-excuse absentee since the 2000s, but most folks, myself included, had never used it.

That was as close as we got to true mail-in voting. The mass mailout didn't happen for Nov. 3, but they opened an online portal to request a ballot, and made ballot drop boxes an option for returning ballots, which really cut down on the USPS reliance of the process.

I talked to the SOS in October about these changes and whether they'd stick around, and they said these innovations would likely continue and be part of voting in Georgia permanently now.

Democratic voters made use of absentee ballots more than Republican voters did this time around, despite a push by local Republicans to vote absentee. From my perspective, the positive response will usually come from the party it benefits, and vice versa. In this case, it benefitted blue voters, as evidenced by Biden's gains once absentee ballots were counted.

Good question!

gkantor38 karma

What are your (admittedly, very early) predictions on how the runoffs will go? I've seen a lot of commentary that GOP voters will be fired up, but without Trump on the ticket, it makes me wonder if Warnock and Ossoff can pull it off.

SavannahNow54 karma

The key to the runoff hopes of the Democrats is what you are alluding to -- Democratic voter turnout. Traditionally, GOP candidates do much better in runoffs than Democrats (that said, we saw the opposite in a Savannah mayoral runoff last year, so there are exceptions to the rule). You can bet the Republicans will be out strong with control of the Senate on the line. If you are asking me to handicap the runoffs, I would say at least one Republican will win, probably two. -- Thanks, Adam Van Brimmer, opinion editor

WcP23 karma

Atlanta and its surrounding suburbs have received most of the attention on a state-level, but one of the details that's been harped on by many national political pundits was the growth of Trump's minority voter base — specifically, black and latino men. Seeing as Savannah is a mostly Black city, did this shift simply not play out here, or is there another factor at play to (in all likelihood) flip the state for Biden? Thanks. Appreciate your work.

SavannahNow26 karma

Savannah and Chatham County did not see that same pro-Trump voter growth. Both candidates attracted more votes in 2020 than 2016 (Clinton as the 2016 Democratic candidate) but Biden attracted twice as many additional votes. What happened here, from what I've been able to discern, is a small but not insignificant number of 2016 Trump (and Gary Johnson) voters went for Biden this time. Here locally, this ended up being a referendum on Trump.

WcP4 karma

That tracks with what I've read re Biden winning over many independent voters. Will more data become available on the subject as time goes on? Thanks for your time!

SavannahNow8 karma

Yes! The Secretary of State's website will be updated with this data eventually, though I'm unsure of the timetable.

The most recent on there is from 2018, not from the primary this year, so I would assume it takes at least a few months before it is posted

https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/Elections/voter_turn_out_by_demographics

finallyransub1723 karma

I've heard both the incumbent Republican senators used information they heard about the coronavirus early in 2020 to make money on stock transactions, but downplayed the risk of the virus to the citizens of GA, is that true?

SavannahNow26 karma

I didn't cover it personally, but Savannah's excellent AP reporter Russ Bynum did here: https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20200617/senate-ethics-panel-drops-inquiry-into-loeffler-stock-trades

Senate ethics committee dismissed the inquiry.

Perdue got less coverage than Loeffler, but he's mentioned in this editorial: https://www.savannahnow.com/opinion/20200321/editorial-senators-give-public-more-reasons-to-distrust-them

CrassostreaVirginica17 karma

To what degree is Stacey Abrams personally responsible for the huge push for voter registration over the past couple years?

SavannahNow34 karma

From story I wrote last week ...

Abrams founded the New Georgia Project in 2013 in the midst of her tenure in the Georgia House of Representatives, where she rose to be the chamber’s minority leader. The New Georgia Project focused on registering minority voters, particularly young women of color, and claims to have registered 500,000 new voters between its founding and September 2019.

Abrams left the Georgia House in 2017 to run for governor. A year later, she received more votes than any Democratic gubernatorial candidate in the state’s history in losing to Brian Kemp by a mere 55,000 votes. She missed forcing a runoff by 8,745 votes.

She launched Fair Fight, a voting rights organization, as part of her challenge to the results of that election. And while she failed in that bid, Abrams leveraged the national attention she received to expand Fair Fight’s advocacy efforts. The group has a political action committee that funds voter protect programs and a legal arm that targets voter suppression.

Fair Fight’s core mission, though, is similar to that of the New Georgia Project -- voter mobilization.

Between 2016 and today, Georgia’s number of registered voters has grown from 6.9 million to 7.6 million. More than 60% of voters to register since the 2016 presidential election are people of color.

Abrams didn’t recruit them all -- among other contributing factors was Georgia’s implementation of automatic voter registration in September 2016. However, Abrams did create significant awareness about the voting process among the state’s minority residents, and her controversial high-profile loss to Kemp not only energized young Black Georgians but turned many of them into activists.

For more on that story ...

https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20201106/how-joe-biden-turned-georgia-purple-closer-look-at-campaign-in-battleground-state

CrassostreaVirginica16 karma

Who are the potential candidates to watch for the next gubernatorial cycle?

SavannahNow54 karma

Brian Kemp and Stacey Abrams. That's it. Abrams resisted running for U.S. Senate, which she would have won, for only one reason, and that's for another crack at governor. Then she will be in position to run for president in 2028 or 2032.

RLucas30007 karma

Can you break down both Senate races? I saw the clip of Ossoff laying such a truth bomb on Perdue that he cancelled the next debate.

What do the Democrats have to do to get both wins? I feel like Stacey would carry everyone to the polls on her back if she could.

Biden will get nothing done if both Senate seats don’t go blue. How does the state convince those Biden voters to actually give him a chance to succeed?

SavannahNow15 karma

Will here,

A lot of my friends from out of state sent me that clip a couple days after I watched it, which is around when I really started believing that Georgia was about to be a big player nationally.

So I talked to 3 of the 4 campaigns yesterday — Loeffler's was the only one to decline comment.

For the Democrats to win both, they would have to convince blue Georgia that this race is as important as the presidential race, which will be tough. If you look at the counts for the Senate races, especially Ossoff vs. Perdue, there was notably less blue support on Nov 3.

Ossoff lost by like 90K votes, but because of Georgia's 50% + 1 vote requirement, it's a runoff. And as Adam pointed out in another thread, Georgia Democrats rarely come back for runoffs anyway, so it's a steep hill. But, with the country's eyes on Georgia, there'll be a lot of money coming in from out of state for both sides, so we'll see!

Here's the story I wrote yesterday about the campaign strategy heading into the runoff.

https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20201108/georgia-likely-flipped-blue-but-itrsquos-not-over-two-senate-runoff-races-carry-national-implications

mach092713 karma

What if you do the recount and it flips? Has this ever happened in other states?

SavannahNow23 karma

Historically it's very rare that a recount changes the vote count that much. Wisconsin did a recount in 2016 after Trump beat Clinton by more than 20,000 votes. After the recount, Trump had 131 more votes.

This is just me googling, not rattling these off the top of my head, but the record for a recount shift is 2,567 votes, in the Rick Scott 2018 senate race in Fla., but that didn't flip the outcome.

I'll be pretty surprised if it flips

EDIT: spelling

Wbatty11 karma

Can Georgia residents (who did not vote before) register now and vote January 5?
Will there be early voting?
Can voters get an absentee ballot?

SavannahNow14 karma

Ayyy I just wrote this story this morning. Yes, yes and yes.

Register: http://registertovote.sos.ga.gov

Early voting Dec 16-31

Absentee ballot request portal: https://ballotrequest.sos.ga.gov

ThepromisedLAN3111 karma

You guys took a while to make sure all the votes were correctly counted, was this procedural or an over abundance in caution knowing what it could signify with your state?

SavannahNow29 karma

Hey! Will here.

The main reason for the long count time, which we also saw in the June 9 primary, are absentee ballots. They take longer to count than regular ballots, since they have to be hand-processed. Between June and the Nov. 3 election, the SOS office passed a new rule that allowed for early processing 15 days before the election, whereas previously, this process could only start on election day.

Essentially, this means the ballots can be verified, opened and recorded into a computer, but they can't be counted until election night. This helped a little, but a lot of ballots were either placed in drop boxes or mailed in closer to deadline, which means that that early processing didn't really help.

That's a long way to say: mostly procedural, with a dash of caution.

Good question!

EDIT: Mailed in, not put in

123mop-3 karma

Does this mean that standard ballots filled out in person are entirely machine counted, and not person counted for confirmation? If so, given that there have been high profile instances of vote counting software malfunctioning and assigning votes incorrectly, including in this election, how confident should we be that the machine counts are correct?

SavannahNow5 karma

Interestingly enough, we just got a new voting system last year. The machines are touch screen, and each is attached to a printer, which spits out written breakdown of all the votes so the voter can double check before putting it into the scanner.

Those paper ballots have a QR code, which is scanned into the computer. So there's an audit trail for each vote. In Chatham, we had a hand recount for a state house race recently. If there are discrepancies in the electronic results, it'll be pretty obvious once the paper ballots are recounted. Hope that helps!

stubept9 karma

Where can you get the best peach cobbler in Savannah?

SavannahNow18 karma

Wew, that's a tough one. Sisters of the New South and Mrs. Wilkes are the best soul food restaurants in Savannah, IMO, and they have killer cobbler.

Better than Sex is a relatively new dessert bar, but I've only been once. Everything I had was super solid though.

Truthfully, I haven't really searched high and low for good cobbler since I've been here, but maybe this weekend I'll try a few around town!

Missile_Lawnchair6 karma

IDK about peach cobbler but if you go to Savannah and don't eat at zunzi's you're missing out

SavannahNow4 karma

I can second this. I get the boerewors, but the conquistador is a more safe first step.

Welcometodafartparty8 karma

As Journalists, did you think the New York Post deserved to be kicked off twitter for the stories they reported on?

And secondly, how do you fell about traditional media's relationship with social media / is there any concern about Facebook deciding you can't post something that then drastically limits your reach?

SavannahNow7 karma

To be honest with you, I don't know enough about the NYP thing to really have an opinion.

Social media is an interesting beast because it makes its own rules. I don't think SMN will ever have something removed from Facebook because of a dispute of fact, we're just not a big enough entity for that, and most social media sites are only concerned with national stories, which we don't write.

That said, we rely pretty heavily on social to get our stories out nowadays. I even get stories from social media sometimes, so it's a gift and a curse.

trustworthysauce7 karma

There will be quite a political spotlight on Georgia over the next few months with a recount and then a runoff that will likely decide the balance of the senate. Are local governments or the state government preparing for the potential of large demonstrations and increased political tensions?

SavannahNow9 karma

State and local authorities are well-versed in this given the many demonstrations we've faced this year, from COVID-19 restrictions to racial justice to pro-Trump. I highly doubt we will see anything even close to that scale between now and Jan. 5. And don't forget, the holidays are coming, and there will be plenty of other things for people to focus on.

Redryanhood6 karma

Does the savannah accent really roll off the tongue like molasses?

SavannahNow9 karma

Thick as the air in August after a rainstorm

travisdeahl7244 karma

Have you met any famous people?

SavannahNow11 karma

Will here, and actually yes!

The Savannah College of Art and Design has a film fest every year, and I've met John Boyega, Hugh Jackman, Rob Pattinson (surrounded by a horde of screaming twilight fans, poor guy), and I awkwardly gave Sir Patrick Stewart an unsolicited explanation of why Savannah is so haunted, to which he legitimately said "Oh, interesting," even though it was absolutely not. Really nice dude

travisdeahl7241 karma

Wow, that sounds awesome, how'd you explain to patrick that savannah is haunted?

SavannahNow7 karma

I don't usually get star struck, but something about Stewart got me, and I had just learned that in 1920, a scorned editor of a failed newspaper (not SMN) put a curse on the town as he was leaving.

A couple months later, a yellow fever outbreak hit.

travisdeahl7242 karma

Woah, that's crazy, what were your experiences like with the other famous people?

FreeGFabs1 karma

Just as lame I’d guess

SavannahNow2 karma

Pretty much, yeah haha

clayweintraub4 karma

What are the chances he Democrats will win both senate races in the runoff?

SavannahNow30 karma

Very slim. Democratic turnout for runoffs is traditionally weak, and without Donald Trump on the ballot to draw them to the polls, Republicans have the edge. What's more, with control of the Senate on the line, the GOP voters will come out and come out strong. Warnock has a puncher's chance against Loeffler, who is unpalatable to most moderates, but Ossoff will need a miracle to beat Perdue. It will be interesting to see what the Democrat strategy is in terms of increasing turnout.

wwj5 karma

Why don't you think that Trump not being on the ballot will decrease Republican turnout?

SavannahNow13 karma

Control of the Senate. If the GOP loses control of the Senate, the Democrats will have full authority to set the legislative agenda. They (GOP voters) will be out to prevent that, with an eye toward Trump's return (or that of one of his offspring) in 2024.

thedomham3 karma

Trump issued a tweet that he was confused where the military ballots went that he thought would flip Georgia in his favor. What happened there? Did the military vote blue?

SavannahNow6 karma

So on Friday, which was the last day to receive UOCAVA (or military ballots) 18,000 had already been sent in and counted

At that point there were 8,410 military and overseas ballots that were issued, and can still be counted if they arrived by close of business Friday and were postmarked by Election Day.

A SOS official, Gabriel Sterling clarified that a bit on Friday:

"That does not mean that there's a bucket of 8,410 votes to be counted," Sterling said. "It's going to be more than 0 and less than 8,410."

Haven't really seen any more recent updates. Hope that helps!

FoolishFooligan3 karma

Can you believe that Georgia actually turned blue?

SavannahNow13 karma

When Stacey Abrams came within 100K votes of Brian Kemp, I think most people paying attention in Georgia began to see it as a possibility. Abrams and local grassroots organizer's work since then has been a big part of the flip, but that's explained more extensively (and mo better) by Adam in other comments.

limbodog3 karma

What's your favorite bar in Savannah?

SavannahNow10 karma

Wow very tough call. I'm a dive bar person, so in no particular order:

American Legion The Rail Pub Abes on Lincoln Wormhole Green Truck Pub (more of a restaruant, tbh, but I love em) Alleycat is upscale but definitely cool Lone Wolf Lounge Moodrights

I'm sure I'm leaving some out, but those are all winners if you like dives!

toqueville2 karma

What impact did the contentious 2018 governors race have in pushing the state blue?

Do you think FairFight.org and other organizations like it make a big impact?

How long after the election do you think it’ll take before analyses of the election can provide insights into proving if these organizations did make large difference?

SavannahNow3 karma

An earlier reply from editorial page editor Adam Van Brimmer

Abrams founded the New Georgia Project in 2013 in the midst of her tenure in the Georgia House of Representatives, where she rose to be the chamber’s minority leader. The New Georgia Project focused on registering minority voters, particularly young women of color, and claims to have registered 500,000 new voters between its founding and September 2019.

Abrams left the Georgia House in 2017 to run for governor. A year later, she received more votes than any Democratic gubernatorial candidate in the state’s history in losing to Brian Kemp by a mere 55,000 votes. She missed forcing a runoff by 8,745 votes.

She launched Fair Fight, a voting rights organization, as part of her challenge to the results of that election. And while she failed in that bid, Abrams leveraged the national attention she received to expand Fair Fight’s advocacy efforts. The group has a political action committee that funds voter protect programs and a legal arm that targets voter suppression.

Fair Fight’s core mission, though, is similar to that of the New Georgia Project -- voter mobilization.

Between 2016 and today, Georgia’s number of registered voters has grown from 6.9 million to 7.6 million. More than 60% of voters to register since the 2016 presidential election are people of color.

Abrams didn’t recruit them all -- among other contributing factors was Georgia’s implementation of automatic voter registration in September 2016. However, Abrams did create significant awareness about the voting process among the state’s minority residents, and her controversial high-profile loss to Kemp not only energized young Black Georgians but turned many of them into activists.

For more on that story ...

https://www.savannahnow.com/news/20201106/how-joe-biden-turned-georgia-purple-closer-look-at-campaign-in-battleground-state

phayke22 karma

What can we do to help raise turnout for the Senate run-out vote? What will Biden be able to accomplish in his plan if democrats fail to take both seats?

SavannahNow6 karma

Sorry to regurgitate this answer, but I just wanna make an effort to answer as many questions as I can! Essentially, without senate control, it'll be tough for Democrats to run anything through. It'll be very similar to now, except the president is now a Democrat.

As for your turnout question:

For the Democrats to win both, they would have to convince blue Georgia that this race is as important as the presidential race, which will be tough. If you look at the counts for the Senate races, especially Ossoff vs. Perdue, there was notably less blue support on Nov 3.

Ossoff lost by like 90K votes, but because of Georgia's 50% + 1 vote requirement, it's a runoff. And as Adam pointed out in another thread, Georgia Democrats rarely come back for runoffs anyway, so it's a steep hill. But, with the country's eyes on Georgia, there'll be a lot of money coming in from out of state for both sides, so we'll see!

HTWC1 karma

How do you like the Democratic prospects for senate in GA? How feasible is it after this win, to win both seats? Will those who voted blue in Nov turn up again or stay home?

SavannahNow3 karma

Adam, who is more in tune with the races, thinks maybe one win for Democrats, but almost definitely not two.

My take, from another reply:

For the Democrats to win both, they would have to convince blue Georgia that this race is as important as the presidential race, which will be tough. If you look at the counts for the Senate races, especially Ossoff vs. Perdue, there was notably less blue support on Nov 3.

Ossoff lost by like 90K votes, but because of Georgia's 50% + 1 vote requirement, it's a runoff. And as Adam pointed out in another thread, Georgia Democrats rarely come back for runoffs anyway, so it's a steep hill. But, with the country's eyes on Georgia, there'll be a lot of money coming in from out of state for both sides, so we'll see!

sand5051 karma

Do you think Stacey Abrams has presidential ambitions in the 2030’s, or do you think she’s mainly focused on the governorship right now?

SavannahNow2 karma

I'm gonna direct you to Adam's answer, even though he's probably got his feet up relaxing on his post-election vacation right now.

Brian Kemp and Stacey Abrams. That's it. Abrams resisted running for U.S. Senate, which she would have won, for only one reason, and that's for another crack at governor. Then she will be in position to run for president in 2028 or 2032.

x_x--anon1 karma

Was savanah affected by less polling or extremely long wait line to vote?

SavannahNow3 karma

Lines on election day were insanely smooth across the state. Like I was genuinely surprised.

Early voting was a little more rough as far as wait times go, but that's because there are 6 early voting precincts and 91 election day precincts in Chatham. Also, people thought early voting would be safer COVID-wise, since usually most folks vote on election day.

Ironically, it was the reverse.

Also I can't tell you how many times I've told people not to trust polls this year.

ukbeasts0 karma

How do you think Trump will be remembered if he fails to accept the democratic vote and has to physically be removed from the White House in January?

SavannahNow9 karma

Your question kinda answers itself shrug

WatifAlstottwent2UGA0 karma

What's the best bar in Savannah and why is it Dueling Pianos?

SavannahNow4 karma

YES the BEST BAR IS DEULING PIANOS.

IF YOU COME TO SAVANNAH TO VISIT ONLY GO THERE AND PARK IN A GARAGE

Mostly joking tourist redirection aside, I've had some great nights at Dueling Pianos, fun spot

jesuisledoctorsfw-1 karma

How was the electricity in the newroom following thannouncement that Georgia turned blue? Also, when it was announced that Pennsylvania went blue and that Biden won?

SavannahNow7 karma

Well, none of us were in the newsroom when it happened. We're working from home bc COVID, but we came on election night just for tradition's sake.

And I was actually off the day it flipped. Kind of a boring answer, but an honest one

Grimfuze-2 karma

Arent you in the middle of a recount? So as of now you arent "Blue".

SavannahNow14 karma

Adam kinda already answered this one

Georgia has not been called for Biden at this point. However, he has led in the vote count for several days now and his advantage continues to grow at a slow but steady place. There will be -- and should be -- a recount based on the small margin. However, recounts traditionally impact the outcome by a few hundred voters, not 10,000 plus. What's more, the Georgia state government is run by Republicans, including the secretary of state, and given all the voting issues we've had here in recent cycles, they are intensely focused in the integrity of this election. Biden has not won Georgia, but the odds of him not being declared the winner once the recount is completed are slim.

citznfish-6 karma

How involved are SMN in manipulating this election for the Democrats? Are you worried about the impending jail time for you and your cohorts?

SavannahNow9 karma

Bless your heart. Not at all

DoareGunner-13 karma

How long do you think it will be before investigations uncover massive voter fraud?

SavannahNow14 karma

That's a pretty loaded question, and I'm not going to pretend answering it will do anyone any good. Have a good day!

DoareGunner2 karma

Ok, so let me ask you another. Do you think that it is possible that a significant amount of fraud occurred? Do you find it at all strange that the count was significantly going to Trump up until 94% (or however much it was), and then completely reversed in an extreme fashion after the count was stopped that night?

Also, why would a state like Georgia be unable to finish counting votes within 24 hours when other states who have a much larger population (and more votes to count) were able to get it done? I’m trying to understand why they were able to count 94% of the votes within 12 hours of the polls closing, but then took multiple days to count the other 6%.

SavannahNow13 karma

Now those are questions!

I was part of a fairly large USA Today investigation into claims of voter fraud, most of which were unfounded: https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2020/10/20/trumps-absentee-ballot-fraud-claims-not-supported-evidence/5969447002/

The late turnaround was because of absentee ballots. Trump repeatedly urged voters to vote in person not by absentee. Republicans listened; Democrats didn't. Absentee ballots, by nature, take longer to count, plus there was a massive influx of ballots due to COVID-19.

Georgia, though the Republican-run Secretary of State's office did try to make the process better, was very slow counting absentee ballots.

The 94% of ballots you referenced were those in person votes, early votes and early processed absentee ballots. A sizable chunk of those absentee ballots were done quickly because of a new rule that allowed for early processing of absentee. But they didn't get all of them early. The deadline to turn in ballots was 7 p.m. on election night, which means those ballots that came in on Nov. 2 and 3 had to be processed, by hand, after polls closed. That takes a while.

So: Absentee ballots in Ga. favored Biden by around 70 percent. Absentee ballots take longer to count. A record breaking number of people in Georgia voted absentee. The math checks out.

No sarcasm whatsoever: I really do hope this helps make it more clear. I'm not trying to defend Democrats or shut down Republicans or anything like that, I just want to help people make sense of an absolutely, undeniably confusing election, and I appreciate your question because it helped me do that.

element_115-15 karma

Have you guys read The Whistleblower Tapes?

Edit - look at all these bootlickers ignoring whistleblowers because it might implicate their team. Its only newsworthy if it fits the agenda amirite? Lol frogs boiling in water.

SavannahNow10 karma

I haven't! But as I've said in other comments, national-level coverage isn't really something we delve into at our paper. We're a small team, so state level is about as high as we go.

Batleaxewarrior-19 karma

How exactly did the fraudulent ballots get counted and how many do you think there are? Are you going to welcome trump With open arms when the recount happens and he wins the presidency

SavannahNow8 karma

Which ballots were fraudulent again?

Forward-Unto-Don-25 karma

What will you do when HAMMER and SCORECARD is exposed?

SavannahNow25 karma

Just learned about this conspiracy theory, but as a midsized newspaper in a small town, we don't really deal with much in that field. Sorry!

Pending_truth-26 karma

Have you heard of Hammer and Scorecard? And if so, why hasn’t this been further investigated on any mainstream media outlets?

SavannahNow21 karma

Hey! I hadn't heard of this until your comment.

Just to reiterate, we write for a local newspaper in Savannah Georgia, so I would suggest asking a mainstream media outlet about conspiracy theories surrounding the election.

FEwood-28 karma

Biden has not won. He has not won GA. Have you heard about the GA recount that Doug Collins is heading?

SavannahNow29 karma

Georgia has not been called for Biden at this point. However, he has led in the vote count for several days now and his advantage continues to grow at a slow but steady place. There will be -- and should be -- a recount based on the small margin. However, recounts traditionally impact the outcome by a few hundred voters, not 10,000 plus. What's more, the Georgia state government is run by Republicans, including the secretary of state, and given all the voting issues we've had here in recent cycles, they are intensely focused in the integrity of this election. Biden has not won Georgia, but the odds of him not being declared the winner once the recount is completed are supermodel slim.