Edit 5 : Stopped in for one last edit and to repeat what I said earlier in a response:

Kidnapped can be used metaphorically. After making the post, it became clear that people were taking it literally. There is no edit post option, and frankly I expected this to have 20 people who knew it was coming reading it. I've tried to be clear it was a metaphorical usage, as I had no expectation that writing a post and treating furries like goddamn humans would lead to a furry following and getting drawn into talking at conventions and stuff for and with them. That's the usage of the term kidnapped, a metaphorical usage to indicate being taken by surprise at my sudden descent into the furry world brought on by writing a blog post.

I'm Boozy Barrister, the author and attorney behind Lawyers & Liquor. Back in April I was just another foul-mouthed attorney venting on an internet website. Then I got kidnapped (not literally kidnapped, jesus.) by the furries after writing about some Sovereign Citizen drama that was happening in a furry convention.

Since then I've appeared at furry conventions, gained a lot of furry followers, interacted heavily with the furry community, and turned my profane legal blog into a platform to talk about legal issues surrounding furries, fetishes, and more mundane legal matters.

My life has been an unholy wreck, and I really wish I could go back to writing about parrots.

Ask me anything and I'll answer them...you know...as I can.

Proof

Edit (12:24 EDT UTC -4): Hey, I gotta go do lawyer stuff. If you keep asking, I'll stop by again later in the day and answer some more. Otherwise, it's been neat and thank you for the questions!

Edit 2 My god, I wasn't literally kidnapped. It's a play on the term and a bit of hyperbole thrown in. There is no random furry kidnapping squad going to houses and kicking in doors, taking you away to force you into a fursuit and never letting you leave.

EDIT 3: I GET IT. THE USE OF THE WORD KIDNAPPED WAS A POOR CHOICE. Frankly I expected this to go like every other Lawyer AMA a member of the mod team has solicited recently and be filled with like 20 people that the lawyer knows asking questions. I did this to humor the request! I DID NOT EXPECT THIS. PLEASE STOP FEELING THE NEED TO TELL ME IT WAS A POOR CHOICE OF WORDS. I RECOGNIZE THIS NOW. CALL OFF THE METAPHORICAL DOGS OF PEDANTRY .

Edit 4: I'm out guys. I'll touchbase later on to see what's happened, but I gotta get some actual work done now.

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squattmunki5183 karma

Am I the only one who doesn't have a fucking clue what you're talking about?

Jay17431104 karma

He was a non-furry lawyer who wrote a legal blog under the name BoozyBadger (or something along those lines). He wrote about some drama involving a furry convention and a sovereign citizen. After that, and based on his username, he was shall we say 'adopted' into the fandom. (Basically he became the go-to person for legal issues involving the furry fandom)

EDIT: He's using 'kidnapped' as a metaphor to imply that his entry into the fandom was not entirely of his own free will. He didn't set out to become a furry - he just sort-of got sucked in.

newnameilostoldname352 karma

What legal issues do furries have?

BoozyBarrister203 karma

About the same as regular people. Just fuzzier.

BoozyBarrister363 karma

God I hope not.

InappropriateSurname1156 karma

Do you truly feel kidnapped or is it actually something you realised was missing from your life and have come to love it?

Also, when you badger a witness, is that something else now?

BoozyBarrister743 karma

Me and Patty Hearst have so much in common these days. I accepted my badger-y fate pretty quickly.

I believe, by pure definition, I'm always badgering the witness now.

FranklyTom975 karma

You obviously chose to adopt a pseudonym to write online, and that gives you greater freedom in terms of the content and style of your writing. Did you ever consider writing under your actual name, and what kind of costs and benefits do you see for lawyers in developing online 'personas' and commenting on the legal field in an arena as public and permanent as the internet?

BoozyBarrister1175 karma

I actually do write and present under my actual name. I chose the Boozy Barrister pseudonym for the freedom to write in a different manner, i.e. how I am in my off-time versus how I am as an attorney.

In my professional writing, I am much more sedate and professional.

The key is to make sure, anonymous or not, you don't violate any ethical standards. Anonymity is not a shield. There are several posts I've rewritten or permanently shelved because, prior to posting, I wasn't comfortable with the content and thought it was too close to call for me personally.

mrchaotica279 karma

Not to mention, the furries (among others) can connect your BoozyBarrister and IRL identities so you aren't anonymous to anyone with a modicum of motivation anyway.

BoozyBarrister202 karma

Yep. =

orochi140 karma

Do you ever ask your colleagues to look at a potential article before posting just to make sure you aren't crossing any lines?

BoozyBarrister169 karma

If I have genuine questions, I do have a few people I send stuff to and run it by them to get their thoughts as well.

lildeadlymeesh302 karma

You've found yourself in the fandom in a very unique way.

Coming from a background that usually doesn't find itself involved with the Furry fandom-(unless they were a furry before law school)- was there anything the surprised you coming into the fandom relatively late compared to most?

Is there anything you'd like to tell curious people about it?

BoozyBarrister503 karma

Nothing really surprising. Maybe how welcoming the furries are, or to some extent how happy they are to just have someone say "I get it, you guys are just people who like this thing."

Which is the same thing I guess people should know. By and large, they're just people who like the giant animal thing. It's cool. It's not a sex thing for a lot of them (but we're people so, you know, everything eventually will be a sex thing at some point), but to the extent it is it isn't a sex thing out of proportion with what I see folks doing as sex things anyhow.

WhosYourPapa144 karma

So do all things that do not originate as sex things necessarily always end as sex things? If not is it still a thing, or is it something else? At what point does a thing become a sex thing? Is there a "sex thing threshold"?

BoozyBarrister559 karma

I have seen art of planes with faces banging each other.

Humanity is strange.

Kalenidus279 karma

Is there some other specialized/"dignified" profession you'd like to see a blogger get abducted by furries the way you were and witness -their- descent into fuzzy insanity? Personally I would be in stitches if it happened to, say, someone in the movie industry.

BoozyBarrister477 karma

I want to see an accountant get dragged into this mess. So far I've met so many lawyers already in the furry fandom, a research chemist, multiple pilots, a commodities trader, the man who literally runs the internet for the East Coast, and more than a few academics and medical doctors.

I want a CPA to meet their fuzzy fate.

Habeas-Porpoise258 karma

Q1 How often do you set down for a consult, only to realize you're still wearing the badger head?

Q2 what's more of a pain in the ass to renew, your law license or your rabies vax?

BoozyBarrister258 karma

Q1 At this point every head is a badger head.

Q2 I hate CLES.

JoryDahSkunk248 karma

We all know you've been to too many conventions now to back away. Name some of the best and worst parts of your con experiences?

BoozyBarrister875 karma

Best? I talked about it on the site, but it was watching a kid get stage fright at Anthrocon in front of HUNDREDS of people and run off stage. You know how if that happens in the real world, people snicker and shit. Here? Nothing like that. No laughter. In fact, the three "big name" personalities present all immediately went back stage to make sure the kid was okay emotionally and physically without hesitation.

That's a community right there.

Worst?

...People get worked up a little easier in the fandom. I've noticed that.

Allahballah216 karma

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BoozyBarrister459 karma

I wrote about that.

Generally, I've met the guy. He's a lawyer, and he's a nice man with a big heart. I think, looking into it, it was less because he was furry and more because of general small town politics. Apparently he was always pretty open about the furry thing.

setfire3-83 karma

Hi this has gotten quite large and I don't know where else to ask this beside hijacking this comment.

1) I still don't understand what you mean kidnapped, do you mean you started working for them? or do they start threatening you? or were you "captured" by the fetish and found an awakening yourself?

2) You mean furries as in the fetish right? as in animated animal shit? or live action? do these furries partake in these 'live actions"?

edit: jesus people, calm your shit. I was genuinely confused.

BoozyBarrister60 karma

Lord almighty.

1) Kidnapped can be used metaphorically. After making the post, it became clear that people were taking it literally. There is no edit post option, and frankly I expected this to have 20 people who knew it was coming reading it. I've tried to be clear it was a metaphorical usage, as I had no expectation that writing a post and treating furries like goddamn humans would lead to a furry following and getting drawn into talking at conventions and stuff for and with them. That's the usage of the term kidnapped, a metaphorical usage to indicate being taken by surprise at my sudden descent into the furry world.

2) I've seen no more fetish stuff associated with it than I have in any other fandom I've ever looked at.

MannoSlimmins191 karma

Any chance you'd accept a mod invite to /r/amibeingdetained?

You gave us the best content the sub has had since P. Barnes.

BoozyBarrister145 karma

Let's talk.

RustBeltLaw168 karma

How often do local attorneys you're handling cases with know about the furry thing, and what can I do to increase the frequency of those encounters?

You know, for science.

BoozyBarrister121 karma

Only two know, that I'm aware of.

willpauer162 karma

So about two and a half years ago I had a minor fender-bender in a parking lot with a sovcit (with paper plates btw, "PRIVATE USE FOR PERSONAL TRAVEL" shit) and while he was obviously not carrying any insurance or even a drivers' license, he wanted me to sign a contract before he would reimburse me (in cash) for repairs to my shitty car's shitty bumper. While the whole thing was preposterous as fuck, it got me thinking: is there any kind of legal precedent that you can think of where an on-the-spot contract can be used to settle a car accident in lieu of the traditional cops-and-adjusters procedure?

BoozyBarrister136 karma

You certainly can waive claims you have against a party on the spot. People are, generally, assumed to know the law.

LegalInspiration142 karma

Do you ever worry your clients will find out about your shenanigans, complain to your firm, have you fired, and get you disbarred?

BoozyBarrister296 karma

Not really.

I'm careful to make sure that I don't violate ethical standards. I don't talk about client confidences, and there's nothing saying a lawyer can't have a hobby. There are lawyers out there who do much, much worse than go to furry conventions and talk generally about the law and write blogs.

Frankly, a couple of posts I wrote about other lawyers actually worried me more than anything I've done in relation to the furries, the kinks, etc. because it comes closer to an ethical line to talk about another attorney than it does to discuss legal matters generally.

If JLVD gets to keep his license, I'm not too worried about mine.

Derpicusss96 karma

Do you own a fursuit? I don’t know much about it, but I know those can be expensive as hell.

BoozyBarrister301 karma

I have what is called a "partial" made by an artist that has since become a very, very good friend. I actually went to dinner with her and her fiance yesterday.

It's literally a badger head, some fuzzy shoes, and fuzzy gloves.

I've worn it exactly twice.

OzymandiasKoK67 karma

How did the other people at the restaurant take your appearance?

BoozyBarrister280 karma

...Considering I was wearing a polo shirt and blue jeans? Pretty well. One person said they like my watch.

Do you seriously think I walk around in a badger head?

OzymandiasKoK128 karma

Of course not, but it would have made the better story.

If we shouldn't take you seriously about the kidnapping thing, one would hope you could return the favor. ;)

BoozyBarrister105 karma

I dunno man, seems every was clicking on this link expecting a story about how a random squad of furries kicked in my door and whisked me away for re-programming.

(Seriously, I appreciate the humor, but man...there's a reason I avoid reddit)

HobbitFoot93 karma

What furry related issue do you think will turn into important legal precedent in the future?

BoozyBarrister212 karma

I think the intersection of IP protection and the "fursuit designs" could be important. Those things are unique and cost a lot of money, so I could see a dispute between a maker and a client on who actually owns the rights to the suit and its design.

red_winds51 karma

On furaffinity and other furry art websites under every picture it states that the OP holds the copyright to the art piece. Does this have any legal standing if someone were to repost the copyrighted content?

Also if someone who owns a fursona commissions an art piece, does that mean that they are licensing out the design? or would they have to hold an official patent first?

BoozyBarrister90 karma

That's a really interesting question. And I can answer it generally as follows, with the understanding I'm a lawyer, not your lawyer, and this is not legal advice for any specific situation, you really need to go talk to a lawyer in your area specifically about any questions you have.

No, reposting copyrighted work does not give the poster a copyright in it. The copyright goes to the creator of the piece.

The question on "owning" a fursona is different. Generally you can't "own" an idea alone in the copyright sense. Something has to actually exist for it to be copyrighted (a physical piece of art, a story, a song, etc.). As for owning a design, we'd be getting into patents.

I'm not a patent guy.

Two-Tone-20 karma

What about trademark? Can't you trademark a character design?

BoozyBarrister44 karma

TRademarks are primarily for commerce, not creative, use.

ebooksgirl91 karma

As a 'Courtroom Clerk' who can sense a SovCit a mile away (and knows she's not getting her lunch when they have a court date...) that was hilarious.

Not knowing if you read up on any other fandom issues, do you have anything to say on the Christopher Handley case out of Iowa?

BoozyBarrister51 karma

I haven't, but I guess I will now!

vaguerant6486 karma

Is fur required to be a "furry", by definition? In your legal eagle opinion, would disallowing a dude in a snake suit from participating in "furry activities" be legally actionable discrimination? How about an eel suit? Just asking for....uh, a friend.

Edit: Added a missing question mark.

BoozyBarrister278 karma

No it's not! There's a whole subset called "scalies" that are lizards and stuff, and then there are the "birbs" (birds) and...

...oh god, why do I know this?

RustBeltLaw69 karma

Do you think LawyerSlack founder Keith-in-Real-Life is actually a hidden furry?

BoozyBarrister64 karma

You know he just loves maskimals.

kyperion67 karma

Where do I go to get kidnapped by furries?

BoozyBarrister164 karma

No matter what they tell you, it isn't e621.

Ceilingfe4thermonkey62 karma

What has the biggest change to your life been since you were introduced to the fandom?

BoozyBarrister138 karma

I've been calmer, or at least I've been told that. I've been generally happier, or at least I've been told that.

I'm also exhausted because producing content for 500 lawyers is a hell of a lot less intensive than producing content for 7,000 furried.

oreo314oreo60 karma

What have you seen in the fandom that you wish you didn't see?

BoozyBarrister197 karma

Really? Not much.

I don't really have regrets. I have stories that come from my experiences. If I see something that bothers me, I file it away in the "story to tell later" file.

Sure, you'll see some unpleasant stuff, but I see unpleasant stuff daily away from the furries. It's hard to shock me.

That said...have you heard about the cheese grater?

PM_ME_CHUBBY_BOOBS58 karma

You thinking of adapting a fursona?

BoozyBarrister173 karma

Apparently I'm already a "motherfucking badger"

swear_bear53 karma

Right so I've read your blog post about why I shouldn't go to law school. My question is this, should I go to law school?

BoozyBarrister111 karma

....Sure, why not. You're not gonna listen anyhow.

bullet5000050 karma

Would you say it was a net positive or a net negative that you got introduced to furries, given your rapid ascension to ultra-mega-popufur and somewhat polarizing (at least in the telegram chats I'm in) persona? Also, Can I buy you a drink at MFF if you're going? I'd love to pick your brain about law and such. Yours truly, a dragon

BoozyBarrister78 karma

Yes on the drink.

Frankly? I try to ignore the drama. I've met some cool people and I've made some friends. If tomorrow I go back to having 500 readers that are lawyers and judges, I'm cool with that. I'll be sad, but I'm cool with that.

It's not like I woke up one morning and said "I'm gonna go become a 'popufur'"

RustBeltLaw47 karma

What is your opinion on Sparkle Dogs? Can they make decent lawyers?

BoozyBarrister83 karma

Only with proper housetraining.

SouthCoco1044 karma

How would you explain what a Furrie is to someone who has no idea what they are and what they do?

BoozyBarrister227 karma

"You know Robin Hood? The Disney one? With the fox?"

"They really like the fox."

ManicAscendant43 karma

Have you been sought out to act as a legal retainer or advisor by any furry conventions yet? Regardless of the answer, would you be:

1) willing to assist pro bono 2) willing to assist for a reasonable rate or 3) unwilling to assist?

Additionally, have you converted any other lawyers? Furry is, after all, one of the greatest social networks out there.

BoozyBarrister59 karma

Interesting question. I have not been sought out.

To be involved with anything, I'd normally have to charge. However, I did provide a bit of pro bono (and very limited) legal advice to one smaller convention already as a favor, and I already serve on the board of a couple non-profits (non-furry non-profits) and work with them.

I'm almost never willing to turn down a client.

Warlizard41 karma

Before you were a lawyer, did you write clickbait?

BoozyBarrister24 karma

I did not. The only writing I did prior to being an attorney was I worte some pulp-y horror fiction for about two to three years for extra beer money. After joining the legal profession, it's been all briefs and motions.

PurdyCrafty37 karma

How were you kidnapped? Is that you just being cheeky or were you actually kidnapped?

BoozyBarrister113 karma

...TIL hyperbole doesn't come off well over the internet.

I wrote a thing about furries that didn't call them perverts and treated them like people. They enjoyed it and I found myself becoming more and more involved in the furry fandom. Now? Now there is no lawyer, only Badger.

iFroge34 karma

Are these furries holding you hostage while writing this AmA?

BoozyBarrister39 karma

No, I'm actually doing this because it's a slow day and I'm listening to a few CLE's today.

jbeechy28 karma

Do you wish you were a bird lawyer?

BoozyBarrister75 karma

HAVE YOU EVER PLAYED AVIARY ATTORNEY?

Miztahfrawg27 karma

Have you created a fursona and/or has someone made one for you yet?

BoozyBarrister133 karma

I accidentally created my own with a throwaway joke in the first post about the furries by saying I would be a "motherfucking badger."

I am now a motherfucking badger.

pittgal13927 karma

Why do you act like you were kidnapped when you've accepted yourself as a part o the fandom on numerous occasions? I believe what you are saying constitutes as libel against an entire group of people?

BoozyBarrister26 karma

Patty Hearst was kidnapped. Just keep that in mind.

EDHPanda25 karma

Have you ever played the Ace Attorney series? Would you play it on stream while giving thoughts on it as a lawyer?

Totally unrelated, have you ever crossexamined a Parrot?

BoozyBarrister34 karma

I have played a bit of it, but frankly I don't consume a lot of legal media except for the Film Friday posts on the site. Like most chefs don't like fixing dinner at home, I don't like watching law dramas at home.

LobieFolf25 karma

People are often surprised that I consider myself a furry (I know you don't consider yourself as a furry per se) but working in a professional field even as nerdy as it is (developer) people often think that all furries are live at home do nothing people.

Have you ever inadvertently wound up in furry drama? I've never had problems staying out of the drama, but I'm not exactly popular; so that really helps.

Edit: furries not curries

BoozyBarrister47 karma

Have you ever inadvertently wound up in furry drama? I've never had problems staying out of the drama, but I'm not exactly popular; so that really helps.

I tend to find the biggest pile of shit around and put my foot right in it.

slayer99124 karma

What is your take on furries? People having fun? People with issues? What has been your experience with the furries you met? Have you dressed up as a furry?

Also, have you had sex with a furry.

BoozyBarrister103 karma

Let's start with the second part first: I'm a very taken person, and accordingly have not had sex with anyone that I'm not going home to for about a decade now.

The furries are people. People are people. They have their issues and bad actors, the same as every group out there. There's really nothing that special or different about their group makeup that I've seen that you won't find in any other community.

Ayy_2_Brute-56 karma

Minus the yiff crowd though.... I mean... right?

BoozyBarrister176 karma

Find me one community where there aren't people having sex.

I'll wait.

pendleza262 karma

Incels

BoozyBarrister230 karma

You win.

Jay174323 karma

One very hot-button issue in the fandom is the legality of drawn/rendered depictions of underage characters. What's your take on that?

BoozyBarrister134 karma

You see that fifty foot pole in the corner?

That's the one I'm not using to touch that.

Sitherie23 karma

Do you feel that with most of the fandom being alcoholics helped you adapt /feel more comfortable?

BoozyBarrister73 karma

Want to know a secret?

I don't drink that much. Years ago I drank very heavily, but I stopped drinking heavily a while back. I enjoy drinking, but I think I've only actually drank at two conventions.

I do have to say it is worrying to hear a young person say they feel they have to drink to fit in, but the same can be said for college. They "heavy drinkers" that are in the limelight I've met in the furry fandom are very clear that nobody should feel pressured to drink, and drinking should be part of having a good time and not the only way to have a good time.

overfitting19 karma

Other than the Sov Cit issue that started your involvement, how have the furies been to deal with compared to non-furry clients?

BoozyBarrister38 karma

People are people, and clients are always more difficult than non-clients in general.

Jay174318 karma

There is no random furry kidnapping squad going to houses and kicking in doors, taking you away to force you into a fursuit and never letting you leave.

I guess you haven't been to Furry Weekend Atlanta?

EDIT: For the benefit of those reading who don't get the joke, FWA is known in the furry community for being a party con where some of the crazier stuff happens.

BoozyBarrister16 karma

The only time I visit Atlanta is when I'm flying Delta.

DamascusSteel9717 karma

What type of law do you practice? How was law school? (Thanks from a prospective law student)

BoozyBarrister22 karma

I’m a civil attorney. I don’t do criminal, family, or Personal Injury. Just your day to day lawyer.

Law school is rough. Really rough. But if you have the desire to practice law, and the ability to treat it like a job, it’s not too bad.

Zaorish916 karma

How did you choose the badger?

BoozyBarrister36 karma

I love alliteration.

Easy-Tigger14 karma

Not sure if it's your area, but regarding copyright, who would hold the rights to a character costume?

Say someone dreams up a character. They come up with everything, but for whatever reason, they can't draw it. So they commission someone else to do it. And later, down the road, they commission a costumer to make it. Or they draw it themselves, but commission the costumer to make the costume.

Assuming that the original person didn't go to a copyright lawyer and just threw money around, who, ultimately, owns the rights to the design or the suit?

BoozyBarrister30 karma

It's not my area, and it is something I'm researching for a future post.

Nenekiri14 karma

Have you ever considered doing a Lawyers and Liquor post that looks at some of the issues present between Video games and the law?

BoozyBarrister20 karma

I have! However, I'd need to pick the brains of some guys MUCH smarter than I am about those areas first.

LegalInspiration23 karma

*ahem*

BoozyBarrister18 karma

You and Lenny French are who I have in mind.

AntelopePoo13 karma

How do you feel about the oversexualisation of furries by some members and the resulting views on the fandom as a whole in media?

BoozyBarrister76 karma

I'm not even sure it's an oversexualization by the fandom. I'll admit my knowledge was essentially "Sex animals" before hand, but I haven't seen anything out of proportion with what I'd expect to see sex-wise at any other fandom.

As I put it once, "Somewhere at a Star Trek convention, Worf is laying pipe in Picard in some room. We all know this." The furries just seem a bit more willing to acknowledge it.

As for the media presentation...sex sells. And it's certainly a strange thing for sex to sell about. At the end of the day, I say people are people and if it's happening in private, it's none of my damn business.

Banzai5111 karma

Has a proclaimed "sovereign​ citizen" ever successfully pressed actual sovereign​ citizen claims in a federal court?

BoozyBarrister17 karma

Define "successfully."

The fact is a lawsuit can have many different outcomes that could be considered a win depending on what the goal is in bringing it. For instance, in most Landlord/Tenant eviction defenses, you aren't going to keep the client in the house or apartment. That's not a win. But buying them thirty extra days to get out and contesting a part of the past-due rent or damages claimed by the landlord? That's a win.

So I guess the answer is "what is success in these cases for the person bringing the claim?"

the_fickle_pickle11 karma

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BoozyBarrister63 karma

When people ask this it amazes me, because I genuinely wonder if people think lawyers just live in a small gated community interacting with exclusively each other. It's not like I only knew or talked to lawyers before now or shunned interactions with the muggles.

I haven't especially learned anything about non-lawyers that I didn't already know, having spent time as a non-lawyer myself.

Allahballah11 karma

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BoozyBarrister20 karma

The Shrew

macsdd9 karma

What's your fursona?

BoozyBarrister40 karma

I'm a motherfucking badger.

snkeolr9 karma

Have you done work with Boomer the dog in Pittsburgh? I live a few blocks from him. I remember he was on the news a while ago for trying to change his name to actually boomer the dog. I am not a furry myself but love that Anthrocon is held in Pittsburgh every year.

BoozyBarrister14 karma

I have not. I'm aware of Boomer, and wrote a piece on his name change petition.

I'm a little flummoxed as to why that was denied, frankly. I don't agree with the judge's reasoning given some other name changes that have been approved out there.

PojoResin9 karma

Ok, so what exactly happened with kidnapping??? I've never heard about this before now, I'd love to know what happened

BoozyBarrister38 karma

The furries enjoyed my post.

The furries then slowly, but surely, wrapped their fluffy arms around me and dragged me into the darkness.

twdyy8 karma

Have you converted to furry yet?

BoozyBarrister49 karma

There's a badger head in my closet.

reggit997 karma

What animal do you wanna be?

BoozyBarrister66 karma

One that is financially secure enough to buy a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle 23 Year the next time it comes out.

You?

MaiesioFurry14 karma

You should be a corvid. They like shinies, are the most intelligent birds (debateably), wear black, are experts in bird law, are well-spoken, and when you get together with other corvids you get to make jokes about an attempted murder.

BoozyBarrister40 karma

Are you talking about jackdaws?

Frewdicey6 karma

Is Gizmo the Gremlin a good fursona or the best fursona?

BoozyBarrister51 karma

Gizmo is flat out the BEST fursona but...I mean...bear with me here...

Have you heard of Telephone?

wishIknewwho5 karma

I find sovereign citizens very interesting. It almost seems like a contagious mental illness. But also, there are those rare cases like that guy in Montana who, at least on a temporary surface level, seemed to actually use the tactics somewhat successfully (though this guy lost in the end).

My question is, between SovCits, Moors, Free Men on The Land, etc, what's the strongest unorthodox legal argument you've ever personally seen or heard of? Amongst the gobbledygook are there any notable, legitimate quirks in the legal system that people have successfully exploited in this manner?

BoozyBarrister15 karma

Frankly, for us we don't differentiate between any of those three. We tend to blanket them all under the same "SovCit" label because they all sort of borrow from each other in their methodology.

One of my favorite "quirks" was a case where a wife had signed the deed for a house, but not a mortgage for the same house. On death of the husband, the deed passed to her entirely by operation of law. The argument was since the property passed to her entirely, and she'd never signed the mortgage (only the husband had), she wasn't responsible for the mortgage. The court ended up agreeing the widow didn't have to pay the mortgage, and the bank couldn't collect on the mortgage through foreclosure.

rgraves225 karma

What do you use for your case management? If anything?

BoozyBarrister5 karma

We don't use any case managment software at my firm. We schedule things by hand on paper calendars and a shared office electronic calendar, we bill in a separate software, and you're expected to know the status of each case on your own.

It helps I have a decent memory.

trashy_kitty4 karma

How did you settle on a badger as a fursona? Was it for the alliteration?

BoozyBarrister13 karma

Pure alliteration.

Party_Associate4 karma

I like your writing style, cant put my finger on why but that doesn't matter. I think I'll check out the site some more.

Do you know of any influences on your writing style? Any kind of voice you have while writing? If so, please tell me about them.

BoozyBarrister3 karma

I actually write the blog how I talk casually: disjointed as hell and rambling.

shitterplug4 karma

How do you feel about reddit's new sorting system for this subreddit that brings all questions with answers directly to the top and pushes down the most upvoted questions?

BoozyBarrister9 karma

Frankly I don’t reddit that often anymore, so I was unaware of this.

Gerpgorp4 karma

Why didn't you use hijacked?

It would have been a more obvious and less distracting metaphor and we could all get down to the good work you do with your furry business.

BoozyBarrister11 karma

....We both know the internet. Had I used hijacked there'd still be one guy complaining about how nobody used weapons to overtake my vessel.

adingostolemytoast4 karma

As usual I'm coming in late because I'm Australian and i just got up...

Barrister? In America? I didn't know you guys used that word at all. Coming from a jurisdiction with a split profession (barristers v solicitors) and a whole different certifying authority between the two, the idea of just suddenly calling yourself that seems weird.

Also, given what barristers have to wear in court in paces where they are a specific thing, furrie culture doesn't seem too much of a stretch.

BoozyBarrister6 karma

Ha! Yeah we do NOT use the word Barrister professionally. I use it as a form of alliteration, but professionally refer to myself as “lawyer” or”attorney.”

adingostolemytoast2 karma

Fair enough :D

You should get yourself a horsehair wig and black robe. For science.

And watch Rake (the Australian version).

BoozyBarrister3 karma

I've seen the Australian version of Rake! Amazingly enjoyable.

ManicAscendant4 karma

Did you get remember to get the knife under the rock?

BoozyBarrister5 karma

Yep.

ThePowerOfDreams4 karma

There is no edit post option

Then how is that Edit 5?

BoozyBarrister13 karma

We can all accept I meant to say "Edit Post Title," right? I don't need to make an Edit 6 just to address this, do I?

arisufox3 karma

soooooo, Vixen or couger?

BoozyBarrister14 karma

Badger.

PikpikTurnip3 karma

Why would the furry community fall so hard for a lawyer?

BoozyBarrister8 karma

No clue. I'm as confused by that as you are.

GambitHollow3 karma

wait, furry as in the furry fetish or ? isn't it legal already or ?

BoozyBarrister92 karma

See, this sort of bothers me now, because it's so much more than a fetish. There obviously is a sexual aspect for some people, but there have been actual sociological studies done now that identify that's well under half of the folks (something like 13% are primarily motivated by sex in joining the furry fandom).

It's a fandom, sometimes innocent and sometimes obscene, just like all the other ones I've ever looked at. You can't deny there is a sexual aspect for some folks, but with my limited experience I'd hesitate to say it's a major part of it.

IronedSandwich3 karma

I've heard of you! how's the law?

BoozyBarrister4 karma

Terrifyingly dull. Most offices and courts are closed today.

Dymdez2 karma

How much furry pussy has this netted you? Asking for a friend.

BoozyBarrister32 karma

Nope.

I'm taken and faithful.

DrugsOnly1 karma

What are your thoughts on assault and BDSM? Does consent give you the ability to assult someone? If so, this limited only to sexual relationships. If so, what defines said sexual relationships?

BoozyBarrister3 karma

Believe it or not, I wrote about this a bit back.

karoshi971 karma

Did they feed anything while you are under 'hostage'?

BoozyBarrister20 karma

There was pizza once. And I've become very familiar with hotel breakfasts.

And I have so many bottles of booze just sitting on the shelf now...

gDisasters1 karma

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BoozyBarrister2 karma

I...guess so?

Frankly, I expected like 20 people to read this. I wasn't really expecting it to do anything more. I'm glad I could kick off a discussion about the metaphorical and literal usage of words, though.

Art_Vandelay_70 karma

How many drugs are you on right now?

BoozyBarrister26 karma

I took an aleve this morning because my knee was acting up. Does that count?

DreasHazzard-3 karma

Not as interesting as I'd hoped but neat enough.

What's your favorite type of animal cock?

BoozyBarrister17 karma

I have no knowledge of animal dicks. Except ducks. Because those are weird.

Doctor_Cornelius-4 karma

HAve you yet participated in a fur pile ?

BoozyBarrister24 karma

No, but I have seen one in a hotel lobby. I was worried people had collapsed from heat exhaustion.