This is my first AmA so bear with me!

I am certified by the American Bio Recovery Association, in the clean up and mitigation of crime scenes, deaths, and trauma scenes.

I also hold certifications with the Institute of inspection cleaning and restoration certification (IICRC) -Water damage mitigation -Smoke/soot remediation - Mold remediation -Applied structure drying

I also have a lot of experience with home/renters insurance, so ask away!

I work 7am-4pm M-F but I'm on call 24/7 so I am on the road quite often, I'll answer questions on mobile if I have too!

With all the recommendations to watch the cleaner, I ordered the DVD from Netflix! I'll watch it and post my comparison here!

Edit: Proof!

My truck outside the building of a natural gas explosion in Springfeild,MA last year

http://i.imgur.com/rdBuKA6.jpg

And some of my certs on the wall in my office.

http://i.imgur.com/gNRVMgZ.jpg

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Dajbman2289 karma

Urgent! How do I get protein stains out of cashmere?

Chriscbrn99 karma

Get an degreaser( goo gone lol) dilute it, test on fabric before use, and blot stain clean! Rinse with water, then hang dry and send to dry cleaners!

Decemberist_xo73 karma

Do you work alone? If not, do you just have regular chitchat with your coworkers while working?

"Morning John, how's the wife?" -vacuums in 20 gallons of liquified Grandma- "Good, she's invited you for dinner tonight! -throws half a jaw into a biohazard bag-

Chriscbrn95 karma

Funny thing , my co-workers name Is john!!! And yes that's accurate !

hmfic747 karma

Whats the craziest thing you've ever seen?

Chriscbrn108 karma

The worst was definitely the old lady In a bathtub, 4 months. Had to use shovels and absorbent( spill gone) to get all the fluids out!

lil-praying-mantis39 karma

Aww man, nobody found her for 4 months?

That's actually really sad.

Chriscbrn76 karma

What did upset me was that her family was there, balling their eyes out. Idk if they we're cause they neglected her or cause they were actually sad

Matt248641 karma

What is the messiest crime scene you've come across? Or the most high profile?

Chriscbrn92 karma

The Boston bombing site

sunshineee1327 karma

I've seen an AMA similar to this one. The guy said he is able to use humour to deal with what he sees better. Do you use this same method? Are you ever disgusted or sad about what you see? What's the worst you've seen?

Thank you :)

Chriscbrn42 karma

The hardest part of the job is dealing with the next of kin and the media, that's the largest mental drain, normally it's just cleaning up a mess, but when you start finding out who that mess belongs too, or how it came to be it starts to get very difficult.

The worst was definitely the old lady In a bathtub, 4 months. Had to use shovels and absorbent( spill gone) to get all the fluids out!

moammargaret8 karma

Why didn't you just throw away the bathtub?!

Chriscbrn93 karma

What are you gonna do with the 50 gallons of liquified grandma?

Dropdatopz242 karma

Add root beer. Oops that's how you make a dead baby float.

Chriscbrn35 karma

What's the difference between a dead baby float and a root beer float?

...I don't have a root beer float in my hands right now

the_epic_narwhal9 karma

i allways find baby a bit over powering. if you use grand ma you get a smother flavor

Chriscbrn20 karma

It's like a fine aged whiskey

the_epic_narwhal7 karma

exactly. but if you are out of grandma i much prefer powdered baby to fresh

Chriscbrn10 karma

Powdered is great, you can sprinkle it on everything!

dssx26 karma

How do you determine the charge for the job?

How much do you charge per job?

What's something you take for granted that you do every job that would make an average joe/jane throw-up or freak-out over?

Thanks for the AMA!

Chriscbrn72 karma

Time and materials usually, just for perspective my labor rates are around $100 an hour.

Um it would have to the odor and remnant body parts, sometimes it still gets me though.

Funny thing is that till this day, even working in the nastiest conditions, the only thing that makes me puke is puke and watching someone do so.

gregtallica84 karma

at first I was like "$100!? Outrageous!" and then I remembered the grandma in the bathtub.

radrax10 karma

Wow, you make bank, huh?

Chriscbrn48 karma

I am 21, I have my own apartment, new car and enough money for fun on the weekends, I say I do pretty well for my age

radrax22 karma

I'm sure you tell great stories at parties, too.

Chriscbrn118 karma

Yea, but if I tell stories I usually do not get laid....:(

Reklawz19 karma

Not an actual question. Just wanted to let you know that there is a german television show based on that exact job. It's also quite funny if you're into dark humour/sarcasm. Probably will never get translated tho.

Link for the curious: http://youtu.be/coghUoGnnI4

Chriscbrn21 karma

Surprising accurate with the whole eating lunch scene( made a maintenance worker boot cause I was eating pasta with sauce on a job site) but most people stay the fuck away from us when we work.

8ofwizards19 karma

How many dead bodies have you seen? And which one was the worst?

Chriscbrn54 karma

I have actually never seen one, we go in after the coroner picks up the body, most I've see was a couple pieces of jaw and skull.

Sarahsmydog12 karma

Please elaborate

Chriscbrn57 karma

It was a shotgun suicide, I'm sure you could fill in the blanks...

Whoistcmt17 karma

How did you get INTO it? I mean like.. did you go to college to be a "Dead guy clean-er-up-er"? Or was it post-college?

Does it pay well? How do you get 'jobs'? i mean.. did you have to register your company with the police or government? I assume you cant just go around cleaning up stuff like that without some serious red tape.

Chriscbrn30 karma

I ran out of money for college(lost interest)

My step father works at Home Depot, the manager of my shop came in and said they were hiring, I got the job and it's just been OSHA training, classes then on the job training

JerkStoreDude15 karma

What's the funniest thing you've seen on the job?

Chriscbrn60 karma

Art work from the tenants

Edit: exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/uNf3rSv.jpg

lil-praying-mantis56 karma

what.

Chriscbrn39 karma

I have about 30 photos of this guys "art" I'm gonna post an album once this AMA dies.

Gravy-Leg__14 karma

How do you get the rotting flesh odor out of a room you are cleaning?

EDIT: Word

Chriscbrn29 karma

Remove the source, then perfume for the psychological aspect, then ozone or hydroxyl generators, and air filtration!

thegapinglotus13 karma

Forensic anthropologist here, I'm a big fan of little plastic cups of downey or similar fabric softener placed in our vehicles for when a smell gets set in.

Chriscbrn23 karma

Vick vapor rub! Underneath the nose!

thegapinglotus8 karma

Lol! The downey is to get the smell out of the car, so that other users of the vehicles don't get grossed out. (Or us, when we're transporting someone/thing in a personal vehicle. I've never actually seen anyone do the Vicks outside of Silence of the Lambs. Oh, and ravers.

Chriscbrn11 karma

It's good when you have to spend 8-12 hour days around the smell, for the trucks we use super sock or COC by odor x, available

http://www.nilodor.com/m/OnlineCatalog/Odor_Fighting_Super_Sock-details.aspx

Gravy-Leg__4 karma

How do the ozone and hydroxyl generators work? Where can you buy those? (A friend is flipping a house that reeks of cat piss)

gnomestress20 karma

Cat piss is a tough one. Clean the carpets professionally but be prepared to replace them, the padding, and possibly some of the wood underneath (if it's concrete underneath, wash with a bleach solution). Get a blacklight. After cleaning something, look at it again in the dark under the blacklight. If it glows it goes. When the blacklight test comes up clean everywhere, have the ducts cleaned and repaint.

Source: bought a home on the cheap from a lady with some naughty cats.

Chriscbrn15 karma

Spot on my friend !!

Chriscbrn10 karma

You have to remove the source of the odors first!

shinychris8 karma

Well, if it's a case where the cats pissed everywhere, you can pretty much just scrap all the carpet. Use a blacklight to see where there is urine, then remove carpet and pad and throw it away. Clean the floor or underlayment with lysol/bleach or whatever you prefer. If the build up is really bad, after the floor has dried coat it with a layer or two of sealant (like Binz) then replace the pad and carpet.

Don't forget to remove and replace the tackstrips if they are coated in urine too!

Source: I used to work as a project manager for a restoration/cleaning company and we did this ALL THE TIME with super nasty rental units.

Chriscbrn5 karma

Still in the business? New England area? We need a new project manager!

limitedimagination14 karma

Are you hiring?

Chriscbrn34 karma

Always! You live in New England?

jovial_Jones14 karma

have you ever been in a secret/classified mission?

edit if yes, tell about! same with next question!

do you know of the existence of some chemical/bio stuff that regular people don't?

Chriscbrn25 karma

I actually am in the army too! Chemical biological radiological nuclear specialist is my MOS

jovial_Jones12 karma

Cool! So, are you allowed to talk about such things I asked?

Chriscbrn22 karma

I am a strict follower of my general orders, google is your friend on this one kind sir, much apologies, the MOS code is 74D

jovial_Jones10 karma

No worries, thanks for replying, myte.

Here's a couple new questions:

Which chemistry/physics/biology did you need to study in order to be a certified biohazard?

What's the most exciting aspect of your job? What do you like the most or find more interesting?

Chriscbrn17 karma

Very minimal science involved( much to my disappointment)

The most interesting is the containment, protection and Decontamination procedures.

Edit: oh and how many countries actually posses and have the capability using chemical weapons, and other WMDs is a rather scary fact

jovial_Jones7 karma

Cool, I appreciate your answers!

If you don't mind, these are the last ones!

Do you travel a lot? inside the USA? other countries? what's the most exciting place you've been? And what's the most difficult situation you've been in?

edit also, is there some thing you don't like about your job? some thing you would like to change, despite you accept it as part of your job?

Chriscbrn16 karma

I stay mostly in CT and sometimes other parts of MA

The worst part is media, the last job I did I was cleaning up after a stair collapse, there was 6 news cameras on me the whole time, most awkward " what the fuck am I doing with my life moment"

spatialcircumstances9 karma

What's an average job like for you?

What was the worst experience you've had on the job?

Chriscbrn28 karma

Usually, just natural causes, some bodily fluids, nothing crazy

Worst is DB in the appt for 5 weeks, HIV+, heroin addict and a hoarder.

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE8 karma

Were you in constant fear that a needle would poke you?

Chriscbrn28 karma

Yep, you literally have to pick up each piece of trash individually to make sure there weren't any in the pile, imagine doing that in a 800sf house, with trash 3-4' deep all around

Gravy-Leg__9 karma

How are you contacted for a job: the police, victim's family, ...?

Chriscbrn24 karma

Insurance companies, and property management!

ailee438 karma

Say i shoot an intruder in my home, blood all over, etc. Police take the body (or ambulance if they guy lived). How much am i out for cleanup? Does my homeowners cover anything like that?

Chriscbrn13 karma

Insurance! But some churches and cities have funds to cover that if you don't have homeowners or renters insurance.

EvilTech51508 karma

So is coke syrup still the king for getting blood and gore out of carpet, and off ceramic?

Knew someone that had an apartment complex where someone died, and nobody noticed for about 20 days. So, I figured more up to date info might be helpful for any property maint people out there who can't afford to pay $300-$500 an hour for cleanup services.

Chriscbrn14 karma

It's better to spend the money, tenants are sue happy!

oJD23o8 karma

Ever cleaned up a scene before a crime was actually reported?

Chriscbrn16 karma

Nope but have waited hours and hours for it to be cleared

temlan7 karma

How come you choose this line of work? Is the pay worth it?

Chriscbrn17 karma

For the time being it is ( 50 to 60k for a 21 year old no minimal college) , but we get burned out, no amount of money is worth my sanity or health

darksparten6 karma

Did that natural gas explosion kill anybody? Do you only get involved when death is involved, or will you clean anything?

Chriscbrn15 karma

My company does fire mold water, so everything pretty much!

Oh and luckily no deaths, all the strippers left!

Cynickers6 karma

My husband barely has a sense of smell (both a curse and a blessing, I suppose). Do you find your sense of smell to be helpful or a hinderance in your line of work?

Chriscbrn14 karma

Helpful! I become nose deaf though( used to the smell) but it's helpful to see how my progress is with odor control

benson895 karma

Is it always strictly professional or do you ever mess around with your colleagues?

Chriscbrn10 karma

It's hard too, usually light conversation and music makes time go by.

You never know who is watching.

benson895 karma

Sounds like a hard job. I couldn't do it.

Chriscbrn35 karma

Had a guy pick up an eye ball, and say " here's lookin at you kid". He didn't last long

benson8928 karma

He was gone in the blink of an eye.

Chriscbrn36 karma

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAA!

MST3Kimber4 karma

Have you ever seen the movie Sunshine Cleaners? What did you think about it if you have? I never really considered there was an actual job of cleaning up crime scenes until I saw that movie, and then I realized what an interesting job it would be. Is it hard to get into this line of work? What made you decide to do this for a living? Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions!

Chriscbrn8 karma

All these movie suggestions! And it's not hard to get into it, find a place and apply. They take anyone willing to do it. The turnover rate is fast so most places hire a lot

Chriscbrn3 karma

All these movie suggestions!

Dropdatopz244 karma

How many times have you puked on the job? I puked once where I work when I found 5 lbs or so of hamburger hidden on a high shelf. It looked like black and green maggot soup. The meat trap in our meat department backs up once a month and the first time I saw a butcher digging through the gray meat scraps made me toss my cookies. I have since become immune.

Chriscbrn8 karma

I haven't, but a few coworkers have, puked right in their mask

Shmobzy4 karma

How do you dispose of insects/maggots on a job. Do you get an exterminator in before, or is that something you have to deal with?

Chriscbrn23 karma

Shop-vac, the we just bill the cost of a new vac, it costs more for me to Decon the vacuum

peepjynx4 karma

I'm curious - is your job anything like the job depicted in the movie, "Curdled," apologies if you haven't seen that movie. (Although you should, especially with your line of work.)

Chriscbrn1 karma

Is it on netflix?

cvasquez123 karma

How do natural disasters work? Because you get people who volunteer to search through wreckage, what happens when they come across tons of bodies? I imagine they can't just bulldoze buildings down when bodies are still there and I imagine John Doe from the local kiwanis club isn't piling up dead bodies.

Have you ever done consulting for TV or movies on how to develop crime scene sets?

Chriscbrn3 karma

Civil authorities handle those ones, usually paramedics and fire

Zindahisfaceblack3 karma

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Chriscbrn5 karma

Cut out the carpet, impossible really

KristopherRocancourt3 karma

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Chriscbrn8 karma

BRAAAAAAINNNS!?

The smell of decomp over powers everything

sillynetwork3 karma

wtf?

Chriscbrn8 karma

And when it dries it's like cement

bulletbillx3 karma

Have you seen this movie? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0896798/ - Do you think that premise is scary?

Chriscbrn9 karma

Haha I'll watch it and return back!

I want them to come out with a movie with a dexter like plot, a guy like me goes on a killing spree just to keep his business...

bladeinflame2 karma

Hi! What was the tub incident like, sorry if I'm bringing up bad memories

Chriscbrn3 karma

The only thing that was bad was the smell, it could would punch you in face! The rest wasn't bad, cause it didn't resemble him a flesh anymore, just maggot soup

XoXFaby3 karma

" 'just' maggot soup"

Chriscbrn3 karma

I find myself relating things to food way too much in this AMA.

geneticdriftyo2 karma

How do you get into this business?

Chriscbrn2 karma

Have some construction background, and apply.

OmegaBLUE122 karma

What did you think of the relatively unknown film "Cleaner" with Samuel L. Jackson, Ed Harris, and Eva Mendes?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0896798/?ref_=nv_sr_2

If you have not seen it you should watch it and let us know how close to your job it actually is.

Chriscbrn1 karma

A few people have recommended it to me, I'll watch it and compare it to the real thing

I'll PM all the users that recommend it, and put it in as an edit on the original post

KingQuagaar2 karma

Have you ever cleaned up something you shouldn't have?

Have you ever ended up in a life threatening situation after completing a job? (Death threats, bad effects on your health etc)

Chriscbrn25 karma

Everyone is Extremely thankful for what I do, no death threats!

I look at it as a fact of life, someone's gotta do it. I give closure to people, so they can return into their home and not be reminded of what happened, I try to make the place look better than before the loss. At times I'm a grieving counselor just because I'm there, and at times I have amazing experiences!

For example, I was involved in the clean up from the Boston marathon bombing, it was gruesome but humbling. I heard stories of heroism from the victims and bystanders. It was amazing meeting the heroes that were there that day, owners of shops were using their product as tourniquets and stores as triage centers, runners ran an additional 2 miles to the closest hospital to donate blood. Those a the few good memories I have from doing this job

radrax2 karma

How often do you go and do one of these clean-ups? It can't be every day....right?

Chriscbrn2 karma

It's usually a few a month, CT has a great amount of subsidized housing/assisted living, and 3 of our biggest cities are ranked as the worst in the US. So between murders and natural deaths, and just people being unsanitary I stay pretty busy.

herpderpherpderp-1 karma

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Chriscbrn2 karma

Just gotta blur out the cert numbers before I post them on imgur! Will be verified soon!