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IAmA professional firework display worker, AMA!
I work with professional fireworks and done so for a while now, in light of being 4th of July, Ask me anything!
DillDeer26 karma
That's the finale, to keep any hot embers falling on them and igniting them
IKOZAE6 karma
Wow, never would of thought that is what that was for, but doesn't it get blown off when the mortars shoot through it?
imaginative240923 karma
How much money is spent on fireworks ( on a single celebration ) on 4th of July?
iBeyy11 karma
only? surely thats only cost price, and not sales price. Or material only, not including paying for fire safety, technicians and set up personnel
DillDeer33 karma
Oh yes, just shells and cakes alone are $20,000 sorry bout that, total price of show? A hell of a lot more than that
NotMathMan82123 karma
How many people do you work with when setting up a display? And how many fingers do all of you have combined?
NotMathMan82113 karma
Will you be around tomorrow for a follow up to this question?
Just kidding. I hope your holiday weekend goes off as planned and everyone can still count to ten on Monday.
OblivionCreator19 karma
Do children often wander into your store and try to buy fireworks?
What's your funniest child trying to buy fireworks story?
Edit: aaaaaaand OP doesn't work in a store...
DillDeer24 karma
I don't work in the store myself, What we do is there's a company (Fireworks America) that we order shells from and the company give the shells to us so we go out and set them up and shoot them off :)
However that'd be a funny story haha
OblivionCreator12 karma
Oh, then
What's the worst "display gone wrong" you've had?
and what's your best display yet?
DillDeer26 karma
Worst - Last night we had a hand lit show and one of the shells detonated in the mortar and it blew up like 2 feet from him, luckily he wasn't hurt too bad
(Hand lit shows you sit in rows of nortars and the fuses are practically instant so you crawl from one to another)
Best - Ones that don't go wrong ;) Really cause watching the show literally underneath it is awesome
akidnamedluke2 karma
A lot of old school guys prefer to hit right at the beginning edge of the paper to get a instant ignition.
DillDeer38 karma
Yes we do, High school graduations, New Years, weddings, all sorts of stuff
7usernames15 karma
weddings
Holy shit...Where are these weddings with fucking fireworks??
CaptainDefect3 karma
Aw man they're my favorites. Like tiny little mortars and whistled as they flew.
DillDeer6 karma
My mom used to tell me about bottle rocket fights when she lived in Missouri.. lucky :/
Kolazeni3 karma
You work in pyrotechnics and have never seen/used bottle rockets, even in your personal time? Seriously?
notsokoolaid13 karma
What is that firework that just makes a huge boom? The one with no light, those are my favorite!
DillDeer23 karma
I think you're talking about Titanium Salutes:) Essentially, It's just a big concussion grenade! :D
DillDeer5 karma
The titanium salutes, at least the ones we use, don't have tails either... But Dark Salutes sound awesome :o
akidnamedluke5 karma
On big shoots we put a lift charge on some diesel fuel to get a big flame ball.
DillDeer15 karma
Whoever makes the shell arranges pellets in a "U" shape or "S" or "A" and pack powder in the negative space so when it detonates, the spread out in that way l, that's my best guess, sorry I couldn't answer that one well :/
madmanmunt7 karma
An AMA, nice! I've seen a lot of NatGeo-type shows, so I have a good idea how things work in a general sense. What I'd be curious to know about is the show production culture. Are the guys you work with trying to develop skills, or is this just a job they/you happened into. Is there a certification process? Are you considered an apprentice? Do you want to get into the manufacture side of shell production?
DillDeer8 karma
I was more of handed the job, I knew the guys who did the show well enough he just offered a job. There is a certification process as far as bidding for the job, a pyrotechnic license I believe, we just work under the bosses license. There are guys here who want to get there licenses themselves but this might be my last year do it
DillDeer11 karma
Last night we had a hand lit show and one of the shells detonated in the mortar and it blew up like 2 feet from him, luckily he wasn't hurt too bad
(Hand lit shows you sit in rows of nortars and the fuses are practically instant so you crawl from one to another)
DillDeer11 karma
There's different types, last night we had a hand lit show, but bigger more important ways we do it electronically where we wire each shell individually.. it's really a bitch to do
DillDeer7 karma
Some shows are different but I'm sure there are shows shot off of barges, All shows I've done has been on land
arose0203 karma
How dangerous is your job ranging from completely safe, to I could die any minute
DillDeer7 karma
Hmmm... It is relatively dangerous, you are handling live explosives and one accident could be fatal, lasy night we had a hand lit show and a shell detonated within two feet of a guy, thank god he was safe. He was in shock for the rest of the night
DillDeer6 karma
Getting a pyrotechnics license or something I just got picked up by the boss cause I knew him well enough :D
Redfangler3 karma
Are your fireworks lit by a remote control servo or are they manually lit?
Oaker223 karma
What is the biggest change in the firework business since you started and now?
DillDeer3 karma
Hey guys, keep on asking question and I'll follow up tomorrow, Gotta get working! Enjoy the show whoever might be here!
DillDeer3 karma
Both, some shells could be defective while the majority of time its the person behind them
mattsidesinger3 karma
In your expert opinion, what happened here? What do you do in your job to prevent this? http://youtu.be/ndVhgq1yHdA
ferrric2 karma
How do you line up finales? Are all the shells pre setup and just lit off quickly, or is there a lot of manual work involved constantly setting up new shells to light?
DillDeer3 karma
The finales are pre chained, all of the fuses are linked together. Then you just drop the shells in the mortars like a normal shell :)
DillDeer3 karma
Oh and you set up every shell and mortar before the show, it's impossible to reset shells that quickly, you have to drop it, tap it to the bottom, and light the fuse, that process can take anywhere from 5-8 minutes depending on if you have to wire the shell for electronic shows or not
ValiantViet2 karma
What's your favorite part about your job?
And what's your favorite shell/mortar to fire off?
DillDeer3 karma
My favorite shell is called a titan salute, it's a giant concussion grenade :D
DillDeer3 karma
If you read down I bit I said We're finished setting up, I've been working since 5am
MorphineBear2 karma
Are there any fireworks that closely act like a Komodo 3000 from Malcolm in the Middle? Reference.
Obviously it's unrealistic, but what's the closest thing you've seen that could light up the sky, so to speak.
If yes, have you ever used one?
DillDeer2 karma
There's nothing that I know of that can do that haha, but a bunch of shells in the air over and over (like the finale) definitely lights up the ground so you can see everything
jjjaaammm2 karma
Firework factory blew up a mile from my house in the early 80's. two men died, they are the reason for a lot of the safety measures today, like static electricity discrarge plates and such.
What safety precautions have you seen guys skip? And were you ever afraid for your safety as a result of a coworkers actions?
DillDeer1 karma
Our boss is pretty anal about safety, as a result no one I've seen has been injured from one of our workers, just defective shells
lpca3 karma
I used to live in Madera, but relocated 7 years ago - are you working the Grizzlies game?
DillDeer2 karma
Hey everybody! I'm off to bed, tomorrow some time I'll upload the video of tonight's show!
RedSerious2 karma
I would like to be in this market too.
But in my country there might be some limitations (since we don't have the freedom to handle explosives like in the USA).
But I am really interested in doing something related (I'm an automation engineer).
Feel free to answer any of my questions. Thanks for the AMA!
- Did you build your own triggers? (to set on the fireworks and launch them)
- How do you control the sequence? did you buy a controller or is it a DIY?
- How do you plan your show? Do you use software, drawings, pictures?
- Can you tell some safty measures that you take while handling fireworks for this kind of shows? (while buying, storing, transporting, installing and firing)
Thanks again!
DillDeer8 karma
Question 1 - We use company mortars as the gun, and the shell has a fuse on it to light it, now in the sense of triggers we have electronic matches that we can use and push a button like that
2 - We control sequences by splicing wires together, also timing detonations to the music or what have you. You can order control boards off the internet
3 - Many different ways, hand lighting, (Yelling at each other slow down or speed up) electronic (choreograph with music, write down times to detonate shells so it syncs with music) , and you can also use software to do everything completely automatic
4 - Handle them gentley, they are live explosives, created friction or static electricity can accidentally set them off. When loading shells into the mortar, load them right side up, never look over it, safety glasses, pants, etc etc. Just common sense
kingdadrock2 karma
I had the oppurturtuty to do tbis a few times. Do hou use flares or or electronics to set them off with?
kingdadrock6 karma
Which do you prefer? All the crazy guys I worked with loved the flares.
DillDeer1 karma
Not entirely sure but tonight's show, the price for all the shells was around $20,000
78SuperBeetle1 karma
What is the best firework that the average person can buy? Also, what kind of fireworks are the most impressive for the least amount of money (Bang for your buck haha)?
DillDeer1 karma
Honestly not good ones, now illegally you can buy what we use ;) Don't do it though
damnitforgotagain1 karma
Suppose I have a long fuse and a couple jars of powder left over from handloading, how far should I run?
damnitforgotagain1 karma
Lets just say the grains are all poured into a glass jar, for shits and giggles.
braindamnager1 karma
/u/DilDeer, maybe you can explain what went wrong at the fireworks display I was at tonight. The man who hosted the party spent 200k on a fireworks show, and was shooting very very large fireworks off a barge on the lake. During she show, one of the bigger fireworks went really high but didn't go off, but instead fell back down into the very crowded yard and exploded. What in the fuck happened, and who's responsible?
DillDeer1 karma
I think I heard about that! The boss man was talking about it... He said a shell may have detonated in the mortar and blew some other mortars over, hot ember ms got inside and caused a chain reaction and shit went down
braindamnager1 karma
Wild* If he was talking about this party. iPhone app won't let edit last message either.
DillDeer1 karma
Go look it up on youtube, just type in firework disaster and filter it to "uploaded today" I'm sure it will come up, last I checked 20 people were injured
DillDeer1 karma
hahaha Let's see, last night was a hand lit show and one of the shells blew up in the mortar, and one of our guys was literally two feet from it, he didn't get hurt too bad
MongoLumberjack1 karma
I wish I got to play with the big you alike you, but alas I just worked at a consumer fireworks booth for a week instead. My question is, do you know the name of/have you had experience with the firework that light up the sky? Like the kind in Disneyland's nightly show.
MongoLumberjack1 karma
Do you know the name of that firework they have probably 2 dozen of that just lights up the sky? It's a huge streak of intense light and then it's gets insanely bright at its peak.
xTinyNoise1 karma
I've wanted to be a pyrotechnic my whole life how do you get certified is they a degree or something you need?
DillDeer1 karma
There is certification involved to get your license. I work under the license of my boss but he went for courses offered by the firework company to get certified.
DillDeer2 karma
to put up a fence that keeps me out, or mother nature in.. If God was here he'd tell it to your face, man you're some kinda sinner
shelbyharper1 karma
So if you're using electronics to detonate the fireworks, how exactly does that work? Do you just touch a positive and negative cable and it goes boom? Or do you run them all to a control board? Also, sorry if this is a stupid question.
DillDeer1 karma
Hey man don't worry :) Each individual shell has a fuse, we take an E-match and connect it to the fuse on the shell, the ematch is connect to a strip and you connect it much like audio speakers, it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative, just as long as they're in each connector. That strip is ran to a control board where you ignite it with a switch there. Hope that cleared it up :)
SETH_ANSWORZ1 karma
If you wanted to, do you have the know-how to make dangerous bombs etc?
DillDeer1 karma
Yes I do, with over the counter fireworks. Mt friend and I would break open the tubing inside of the fireworks, take all the powder, and pack it nice and tight in a roll of paper.. boom >:)
DillDeer1 karma
yeah it's pretty cool but honestly the amount of work you do sucks! especially in this heat. I work from 5am-1am back to back on July 3rd and 4th in 110F+ weather :/
DillDeer1 karma
Probably none, I'm sure there's a few courses and some tests involved with
BreakingNoose1 karma
What kind of debris rains back down after a firework explodes? How far can it travel?
DillDeer2 karma
Usually just hot paper, they can travel as far as the wind will take them, also small cardboard pieces or pellets can too, just not as far
helloploxxd1 karma
Do your ears ring at the end of the night or are you used to the loudness?
HoPMiX1 karma
Have you ever worked thunder over louisville or any of the major international shows? If so how do they compare to your run of the mill small town show on the 4th?
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DillDeer39 karma
Here's a picture of one of the shells we have - http://imgur.com/WH9G2Ae
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