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IAmA Midwestern Farmer. I know a lot about corn. AMA! [Round 2]
With the fall harvest nearing the end and the fact that I keep getting PMs about farming, I figured this would be a good time to start up another AMA. I learned quite a lot just in the last year so I hope I can be more insightful to all of your guy's questions.
Short bio: my dad and myself farm around 4,000 acres around the southeastern part of South Dakota. We are one of the largest producers around the area however, we are downsizing our operation.
Fire away and AMA!
My Proof: http://imgur.com/a/TbNwG
EDIT: Sorry about the delay guys. Phone got no service at the bar I was at. I'll answer as many questions as I can!
EDIT 2: I'm still here! Had to work this afternoon and I didn't get much free time but now I am off. Answering every question I can that I already hasn't answered.
pillowpants491 karma
Hired man saw a mountain lion one night. He nope'd right the fuck out.
Amadacius37 karma
What would you do if the massive corn subsidies ended. Would your operation still be profitable? Would you grow something else?
pillowpants411 karma
I would be for it. I realize that I won't make quite as much profit but in turn I would be more independent and not "rely" on the government as much. Also tax payers (including myself) would be much happier.
TJBAM32 karma
Rain makes corn,
Corn makes whiskey.
Whiskey makes my baby get a little frisky.
Can you please verify? BEST REGARDs
pillowpants418 karma
Its sad. They are mostly drinking Bud Light which is pretty much water.
brandnewyou19 karma
I know money isn't everything, but have you ever calculated your average hourly wage?
pillowpants442 karma
For straight up labor and no investment in the crop, its about 15 an hour. If you invest (basically you are the one with crop and everything) its about 400/hour. Gotta remember though that has to pay for land, machinery, and cost of living.
IMPORTANT EDIT: I dun-goofed. I only factored in harvest hours. After everything I could think of its about $150-200 an hour. Sorry about that, folks.
guy_lovejoy14 karma
Money after everything is deducted (except cost of living) divided by how many hours you work in the year. That figure would interest a lot of us.
Khatib6 karma
His number is WAY off. He's not factoring in his hours right at all when it comes to all the hours involved, from planting, to spraying, fertilizer, working up ground, machinery maintenance, hauling crop in to the elevator, etc etc. Farmers can do well, especially with the high prices the last few years, but not that well.
pillowpants44 karma
This man is right. I dun-goofed. I was only factoring in harvest hours. It turns out to be about $150-200 with EVERYTHING I can think of factored in. I'll be sure to edit my post above.
toxlab27 karma
Wow.
I just read an entire AMA about corn farming. The questions were good, but the answers were great. OP even told a corny corn joke.
Thanks a lot, /u/pillowpants4 . This was a very entertaining read. It's nice to see a different perspective.
screwthebankiworkfor25 karma
Favorite corn recipe? Favorite korn song? Favorite corn joke?
pillowpants469 karma
Corn on the cob with lots of butter. I love me some cholesterol
I never really liked corn so I'll tell you may favorite song from BTBAM. White Walls.
How much does a pirate pay for corn? A buccaneer!
mackrealtime3 karma
I used to love BTBAM and listended to them all of my senior year in high school. Colors was in my opinion a musical masterpiece of all genres, not just progressive metal.
antoniusmagnus20 karma
OK. When I grew up in KY we grew corn, and there was always the risk of the stalks getting blown down by winds--how do much larger operations do it? Do you tie the stalks, or what?
pillowpants421 karma
What you do is disk them down as soon as possible or chop them up and bail them for bedding in livestock yards.
Oprah_Nguyenfry16 karma
What does "disk them down" mean? I have never planted corn (or really any crops) in my life. I stumbled upon your AMA and I was interested.
Regrind19 karma
Run them down with a disk harrow, like this (http://www.romeplow.com/Wheel%20Offset%20Disc%20Harrows.htm)
Oprah_Nguyenfry7 karma
Sorry for the dumb questions, but what does that do to protect against wind? Wouldn't that disk just crush/kill the crops?
pillowpants417 karma
Right but thats after you get the crop out. Theres really no way to protect it when the crop is in. If the corn is down, theres corm heads that are specialized in harvesting downed corn.
Oprah_Nguyenfry6 karma
lol, I feel like even more of a dumbass now. Crop out means what? Collect the corn? What's the point of pushing it down if you've already collected the corn?
pillowpants48 karma
Collect the grain from the plant. You don't push it down, its already down.
Oprah_Nguyenfry2 karma
You collect more than corn from the "corn stalk?". I'm so ignorant to farming it's quite embarrassing. I just assumed you collect the corn and that's it.
pillowpants49 karma
Well in a sense. You take mosr of the plant in but eventually the combine filters out the grain and the rest of the plant is spat out the ass end of the combine.
antoniusmagnus2 karma
I always wondered what the professionals did--we just tied them as best we could and got as many ears as we were able. How does 'disking' work?
pillowpants46 karma
Its basically an implement that has wide steel "wheels" that chop the stalk.
Beakerguy18 karma
4000 acres seems like a really big operation, about 7 square miles. How may employees work that land?
pillowpants430 karma
3 of us for spring work. One guy in the planter, one guy in the field cultivator and one guy in the disk. 4 guys for fall work. 1 guy in the combine, one guy in the auger wagon, and two truck drivers.
hatchettchris4 karma
Do you dry land, then? I work on a spud/bean/wheat/alfalfa farm in Idaho. Altogether we farm about 2500-3000 acres. We irrigate; pivot and solid set lines. There are about twenty of us hands that work. Three guys and 4000 acres, I doff my hat!
Beakerguy16 karma
Your first proof picture looks like soybeans. I thought this was about corn, dammit!
1000waystolive15 karma
What's your worst crop you've ever gotten? What year? Weirdest thing in the feild's?
pillowpants434 karma
Last year was one of the worst crop seen since the Dirty Thirties. Corn was about 40 buschel per acre (normally around 150) and soybeans were 15 buschel per acre (normally about 45.) It was also my first real year of farming but crop insurance kicked in and it workes out pretty decently. Weirdest thing was a mountain lion just chillin in a field.
scoutycat14 karma
What are your thoughts on the GMO controversy? Have you seen the effects of pest and plant resistance? In your opinion, is anyone at fault for the problems that have been documented so far (ie, bugs not responding to pesticides, cross pollination, roundup resistant plants), or are these just some of the unfortunate growing pains of new tech?
pillowpants410 karma
The pest and weed control is a real issue that can't be ignored. I think that there will be new tech coming soon to curve this problem but it might not be as great as hope. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Kibibitz14 karma
My grandparents were farmers in a small town in Missouri. They had soybeans and corn, but also some cattle. Going there as a child was a great experience. My cousin and I would walk the acres to the different ponds and fields, sometimes going fishing or messing with the cows. One of the barns was full of hay bales and we would spend hours climbing them like a playground.
My grandfather is a very stoic person. Few words, and pragmatic. He never talks much, but he works hard. My grandmother is the type that is always cooking, and especially would bake all sorts of things when my family would visit.
The farm has since been sold, and my grandparents live in an assisted living center. They aren't doing as well, these days. There are times when I wish I could go back to the farm with them like it was when I was younger, but they can barely move around. I guess this isn't really a question, but please try to take your kids or grandkids to the farm as often as you can. I really appreciate all the experiences now and how much my grandparents worked and did for us.
pillowpants418 karma
I'm so sorry that it turned out that way. If you can, try to go back to the place and ask the owners if you can go around the place. People will do that around here and they usually love having that kind of company over. Never hurts to ask.
pillowpants410 karma
Unfortunately my family (aside from my cousin) doesn't address the issue. I personally think its a real threat and something needs to be done about it. The machinery industry is doing a bit to cut back on pollution by filtering exhaust so there is a few things out there that are changing but we still have a ways to go yet. As for my friends, they generally sure the same opinion I have.
pillowpants430 karma
Yeeeep but you do find him during harvest time. Hes just kind of.....dead.
rustytbone7 karma
Are you guys hi-tec red necks? GPS guided combines? 4000 acres seems like it might be enough to warrant the expense of that technology.
pillowpants48 karma
Actually the only GPS we have is in the planter since it will plant a lot straighter. Everything else is manual.
pillowpants417 karma
The cob whips out the back of the combine as trash. Then it is tilled with the soil, basically becoming mulch.
JF_Queeny8 karma
It's how combine drivers keep the dump cart guys awake...
Zzzzzzzz. CRACK WHOP
amspaucm7 karma
What is the real difference between the different types of corn? As a kid, I never understood what it was about the "hog corn" my grandpa grew that made it so different from the corn we humans eat.
Also, can you recommend any particular varieties of corn that would be good for those of us who do some backyard gardening? Any tips on how best to grow it? (If it helps with specifics, I'm in central Ohio, zone 6A.)
pillowpants413 karma
The main difference is that sweet corn (which is what we eat) matures a bit differently then feed corn. Sweet corn is picked when theres still a lot moisture in it. Fees corn is picked when it has very little moisture in it.
ThunderDumped3 karma
I also just want you to know my Steam and Twitter handle are PillowPants and @PillowPants_
pillowpants46 karma
Year-round, its just my dad and me. Spring and Fall we hire a couple of guys to help us out.
pillowpants49 karma
Never could get a taste for it. I really try but I just can't stomach it.
pillowpants412 karma
We bring our stuff to what we call an Elevator and usually they sell the grain to livestock feed lots.
Necrotic_Horus6 karma
What do you do during the winter ,when you don't harvest or plant? What is your opinion on GMOs?
pillowpants419 karma
I go to school. GMO's are not as bad as people make them out to be. They are necessary for the demand of grain that we need to supply and there have been many tests that confirm that GMO's cause no harm to anyone.
pillowpants49 karma
In a sense, yeah. They basically get more control on the prices and demand on the demand of grain. I don't like it but I have no choice. To make it better, I'm going to donate the subsidy checks to a charity.
Joey_Blau6 karma
Hey when using roundup ready corn.. do you wind up using more pesticides or less?
If you do no till planting and end to end roundup applications.. does the land get a hard crust that tends to shed water? Do you think you get more runoff and herbicide loss to streams?
Are you seeing any roundup resistant horsetail or other weeds?
Thx
pillowpants45 karma
You use less pesticides when using treated (or round up ready) seeds.
We till all of our ground so my answer may not be perfect, but I'll give it a shot. Unwanted crust should not be a huge problem with no-till land but it is a big deal with tilled land. Runoff might be a problem since the ground can't soak as well compared to tilled ground.
Some weeds are growing resistant to Roundup so there needs to be either a change in chemical or something needs to change in Roundup to kill off the resistant weeds.
Regrind4 karma
Can you explain how grain sales work? Say, do you have a contract or agreement with the grain merchant? Or do you just wheel into whatever grain dealer pays the most at the time and you get paid by weight and quality?
pillowpants45 karma
Both actually. You would contract your grain for a set price and bushel or you can sell it the day you bring it into the elevator. You can also have them store the grain for a fee.
konceptklear4 karma
I come from a long line of dairy farmers [fortunately I didn't fall into that same lifestyle, if you've seen my AMA], and I've been told all my life that there's no such thing as a farmer who isn't up to his eyeballs in debt. I guess that's farming equipment, hired help, etc. What's your take on this?
pillowpants426 karma
Thats about right for all the stuff you have to buy but it pays off eventually. Dad's philosophy is live within your means. If you cant afford that new tractor, don't buy that fucking new tractor.
Oldalbwalker4 karma
Three part question:
(1) How does one become a farmer these days?
(2) What is an average day like?
(3) What have been the pros and cons of living in South Dakota?
pillowpants45 karma
- You gotta hire a lot of your stuff at first but you can slowly build your machinery line to become independent. Its a long process so be patient and you'll go far
- Depends on the season. Spring, pretty busy but there is still a laid back feeling to it. Summer is really laid back but you need to spray the crops so there is work to be done. Fall is busy as hell and everything is kind of tense. Winter there is hardly a thing to do so I spend this time going to school.
- Pros: cheap cost of living, small and rural if you like that and its peaceful Cons: Its gets pretty boring sometimes. Night life is non existent sometimes and "big" cities get spendy.
brotherbock3 karma
I'm late getting here, you may not see this. But I'm gonna ask anyway. Grew up in WI, not a farmer but many friends were. Wife grew up central IL, family incorporated and farms 6000 acres. Awesome to see so much interest in a farming AMA. :)
Anyway, question: are you near any of the SD Indian reservations, and are there land dispute issues? I spent some time at the Pine Ridge res, and a lot of the ranch land being used by white farmers there has been leased out by the government without the (Indian) owners' permission. Big problem. Anything like that where you are, or other issues?
pillowpants42 karma
We are not by any reservation however it is a problem. I'm not sure what the solution would be though.....
jenny713 karma
Good about time so if you know so much about corn why does are bodies not break it down if you know what I mean
pillowpants411 karma
Actually its just the outer shell you're seeing. Body doesn't break it down but it takes the stuff in the shell.
vineman3 karma
In your opinion, what is the most interesting thing about corn or corn farming?
pillowpants48 karma
All the uses it has. Feed, food, fuel and many more I can't remember off the top of my head.
pillowpants414 karma
Great! All the crops were better than expected. Corn is about 170 buschel per acre (normally around 130) and soybeans are about 55 buschel per acre (normally about 35-40)
pillowpants45 karma
GMOs aren't nearly as bad as everyone makes them out to be. Basically they are almost a necessity to the deman of grain these days.
pillowpants411 karma
Dad is getting sick of the big operation and I dont want to do that much. Gotta deal with landlords and we want to be independent in a sense.
pillowpants47 karma
Yep. We alternatr between corn and soybeans. Helps maintain the grounds nutrients better rathar than sucking them all up with planting corn every year.
piroko052 karma
What's your opinion on high tech farming equipment IE John Deere 's JDLink?
pillowpants45 karma
Its neat but it kinda takes the fun out of actually doing it. I guess I like doing things the hard way.
Sandpapergooch12 karma
Money. Corn Chowder. They're connected, and they feed back to each other very simply
Openrefrigerator42 karma
Ever found something strange in the cornfields?
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