As Requested: IAmA Male PI who's job is to catch cheating wives and girlfriends. "ThrowawayFlirt" is one of my co-workers. AMA

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Most interesting case so far?

I've been thinking about this one for an hour now! Hmmm.. So many stories...

The most interesting for me would have to be one involving gay men, because it breaks the monotony of doing and saying the same things over and over just to a different woman. This is the story of my first ever "gay bait" experience...

The guy who hired me had been living with his boyfriend for 2 years. He had to go out of town for business for like 4 months on a job, and he was very suspicious that his boyfriend was going out and whoring around. So he told me where he worked (bartender) and sent me in after him..

I went into the bar. It was a normal straight bar, kinda slow at the time. So I sat right at the bar in front of him and just started drinking and talking and being super friendly. I made sure to make a lot of eye contact and smiled a lot right at him. It worked.

He invited me out that night to a place called the "Dallas Eagle", and oh my god was it gay.. I had never been in a gay bar and this dude threw me right into the lions den. I almost didn't know what to do.. Guys were half naked, hitting on me right and left, old men with raging Viagra boners.. But I just put my game face on and danced and drank and partied for like 2 hours. Then I made up an excuse for having to leave suddenly, but told him I really needed to see him again soon. This set the stage for about a week worth of sexting and flirting and sending cock pics back and forth.

Long story short.. I got all the proof I needed for the out of town boyfriend and filed it all away as just another job well done!

You...you sexted him...?...with pics?!?!

Oh yeah.. I'm dedicated to my job son.

Ever get hired by a woman to find out if her husband/boyfriend was on the down-low?

I get jobs like this quite often on BMM actually.. Woman who just has a suspicion that maybe her man likes dudes also. I've never done this type of job in person, but have many times online. Just send them a message from my FB and say I'm new to the area and want some cool guy friends to show me around. Then slowly see if I can turn the conversation sexual.

About how many of the woman you tail cheat? What's the general makeup of the people who you catch, like older women or what?

About 70% turn out to be pretty big whores in my opinion. I don't go so far as to actually fuck them, but I bring the situation as close as possible before I turn the proof over to the husband or boyfriend.

Most of my jobs come from my online employers website, and those are anywhere from 20 year old couples to 50 year old couples. But primarily younger in the late 20's - mid 30's age range.

My higher paying jobs come from local PI's and those are usually older rich men who have younger gold digging wives.. The men know these girls are cheating and being whores by now, and they just want proof of behavior traits to use in divorce courts.

Thanks, and how close do you "bring the situation as close as possible"? Is it when they're dry humping you or just messages saying that they'd fuck you.

Nothing physical besides maybe a small kiss if she initiates it. Keep in mind that our meetings are always in a public place! My goal is to get texts, emails, FB messages, etc that all talk dirty, say she wants me, admits to cheating in the past, or not admitting to having a man in the first place.. I also try to get her to send naked photos. That really means case closed in the eyes of most of my clients.

Last question from me! Do you have an SO, and if so, how does she feel about this job. Thanks for the answers btw.

No I do not have a girlfriend.. This job has ruined the thought of a happy relationship for me.. I know that sounds sad, but am still a very happy person!

Do you get to keep the naked pics?

Of course not.. We have a strict do not duplicate policy! wink

Who sets the moral standards for how far you go and how you approach the situation? Do you just use your own judgement in all things, or are you following some sort of guidelines?

My employers have a "nothing physically sexual" rule.. But if we're in a public bar and she leans in for a small kiss, then it's ok to allow that.

What's the farthest a woman has tried to go with you? Any of them try to force themselves on you?

60 year old guy had a 30 year old alcoholic wife. They had way too much fucking money. She was smoking hot and he knew that she just got wasted all the time and slept around. I agreed to wear a mic to record our conversation in person (very rare)..

I approached her at this martini bar she always went to and she was half drunk already when I walked in at 8pm. She was with a girlfriend and they were both scanning the place for guys. I started buying them drinks and talking and flirting.. Soon enough her friend left with a guy and she took me over to a booth (we were at the bar until now)..

She started spreading her legs and showing me her pussy. She had a dress on with no panties. She had been talking dirty and obviously flirting anyway before this point, but my job was to get as much proof on the mic as possible. So I said something like "what do you want me to do with that?" to which she boldly replied "I want you to fuck it".. So this kick started a very, very graphic dirty conversation.

I had all the evidence I needed, so I got her number, said I had to leave, and told her to text me some naked pics and I promised we would meet up again the following night. She said everything in the book to get me to take her home and fuck her. I swear to God it was the hardest thing I ever did turning this woman down! Wow she was hot. She kept saying I could fuck her in her ass and do anything to her. Crazy...

so, I have hired you because I think my girlfriend is cheating on me with a guy from work. please can you give me a run down of your general process of how to get to the bottom of the case. Just the general process, don't feel that you have to give out your super spy secrets

I will have lots of questions for you...

Where does she work? Where does she hang out, eat, drink? What are her favorite bands? I'll need her Facebook, Twitter, and/or Cell number..

Has she cheated before that you know of? If so, then tell me the story.. If not, then tell me the reasons why you or so suspicious.

I build a file of all this info and then go to work.. Approach her the best way possible whether online or in person. Every case needs a slightly different approach.

Online jobs from my internet employer usually are targeting younger women, while my in person jobs from local PI's are usually older targets.

Do you pity those who hire you? Have you ever felt bad for them?

Yes, very often. For multiple reasons.. Either they really truly love someone who continues to cheat and hurt them (which is the saddest), or they are just psycho crazy and will never let themselves be happy.

are you so good that you could get throwaway flirt to cheat on her boyfriend with you?

I doubt it.. The most I could hope for is a 3some.. It's not gay if it's in a 3-way!

Ever gone gay for pay?

I mean, have you ever flirted with a gay male target because your firm was hired by a suspicious gay male partner?

Yes I have! and these jobs are by far the easiest. I am blessed with good looks and am a very skilled talker, which is why I got this job in the first place. Gay men who have a history of being promiscuous are like shooting fish in a barrel for me.

This is the one I've been waiting for!

I'm sure girls are more ruthless when they get caught

1. Have you ever been threatened after they've been "caught"?
2. Have you ever hooked up with any of them?

1. You have no idea.. The amount of threats I have received over the years is insane. Women get so pissed and just rage.

2. No. It's a dangerous game. The husbands or boyfriends trust us to not go that far, and some of them are just crazy enough to kill me. Plus I would get fired.

care to explain the most insane threat or a good story?

Oh, also. Do you also rely mostly on Social Media and contact them first? Or do you ever meet face to face?

I had a crazy woman threaten me for a solid month every day. Over phone, emails, I blocked her from FB and finally got a restraining order. She didn't give a one single fuck. She tried to hire another PI to track down my home address! Luckily I knew the guy she hired and he told her to kick rocks, called the police, then called me.

My online jobs are always social media first and then phone.. Local jobs can be in person, but still mostly rely on social media to make first contact. It's just so easy because everyone and their mother has FB and Twitter these days.

About how long (hours, days, weeks, etc.) does it take for a women to trust you enough to consider "starting" cheating conversations with you? How easily are some women willing to cheat?

Oh wow, some girls are willing to go home to my place after 30 minutes of bullshit at the bar.. The longest it takes is maybe a week. Keep in mind that if these woman are skanks and willing to cheat, they will do it quickly. The occasional good girls who are faithful will shut me down immediately!

Are you as hot as your co-worker, but with a penis?

He's much hotter than I am ;) LOL

Call me on Skype! Thanks for recommending I do this, it's fun!

Now kiss!

She has a boyfriend or I would.. Trust me!

1. How does one get into your field?
2. Do you have a lot of down time?
3. What's the most interesting thing to happen to you on the job?
4. What's the most interesting thing you've done on the job?
   

1. I answered this somewhere already.. Most in person jobs are for local PI firms. The guys who do this either come from within the firm or get recruited in because of looks and/or personality. Online jobs like BaitMyMate.com are easier to get because it's all done over the internet and cell phone. Plus is a lot more higher volume than in person jobs.

2. I work around 50-60 hours per week. But the beauty of this job is sometimes "work" just means having a drink with a hot woman, which is awesome. Then again, sometimes work is running scared from a crazy bitch who's out to kill you.

3 and 4... Already answered in one of the very top comments.

If you don't actually go all the way with them, how do you "catch them" cheating? "I'm sure she WOULD have cheated on me..." just doesn't quite do it for me.

Good question.. For many people maybe my proof would not be good enough. From time to time we do actually have clients who ask me to go all the way and fuck her. But all my jobs go through my local firm or BaitMyMate so those clients all get told no.

The clients who hire us just want the proof in emails, texts, calls, etc.. It is enough for them 90% of the time. If your wife is willing to talk dirty on the phone, and send pussy pics, and agree to meet up and get fucked.. Then you should not be with her!

How long has this been your occupation?

Do you have a 'go-to' persona?

What's your stitch?

6 years.

I'm the real me actually. I'm not as secretive about personal details as other coworkers of mine. I guess I should be for safety reasons.. But that's why I'm one of the best. I don't get called out for trying to lie.

Stitch?

How do you keep these situations / relations professional so they dont unravel into your personal life? (Assuming flirting is a tricky business.)

It's not that hard most of the time. Occasionally with a really hot woman it's tempting. I am human after all.. But I know that I would be fired because the truth would come out. Plus the husband trusts me to be a pro and not got all the way.

How often do you "fail?"

That is, either because the woman just doesn't find you attractive, or because she's actually loyal and her husband/bf is paranoid?

1 out of 4 women will reject me immediately.. Good to know that there are loyal women out there.

Have you ever found out the person who was cheating was another PI trying to figure out if YOU were cheating?

No because I never have a girlfriend!

• Do you talk to the women about why they would want to cheat? Is the conversation just very sexual and they want an affair, or is it usually just the result of an unhappy marriage?

• Do the marriages often end? Or do the husbands sometimes try to work through the relationship problems?

Varies.. Sometimes you will have a woman flat out admit to being married and they just don't care. Other times she just pretends to be single from the start and will never mention a boyfriend or husband. Those girls usually act like they expect a relationship out of me!

Yes the marriages often end.. But when you think about it, if the man was so desperate that he hired a PI firm, then it's doomed already.

Have you ever had a 'target' blow your cover and figure out it was a sting?

Very rarely.. I have occasionally had some women say "did my husband put you up to this". It's usually women with no self esteem that simply think there is no way in hell this hot young guy in a suit is hitting on me. Makes sense I guess.

Here's one that throwawayflirt did not answer.

On the ones who "pass" the test, do you ever come clean to them that you were a test? Do they actually end up closer once they realize they were tested?

I personally do not tell them that information.. It's up to the husband to do that if he feels it's needed.

What is the easiest way to get a girl to cheat? Honestly just curious, like what is the most effective method you use? And are you attractive?

Keep in mind that I am not trying to "trick" anyone into cheating. Many people misunderstood that I think when my co-worker posted a couple days ago. These men hire me because in most cases they are already 90% sure that they are in a relationship with a cheater. He knows his wife or girlfriend is a whore, and now he just wants proof of her behavior. Sometimes it's to be used in divorce court, and sometimes it's just to see it for himself and be able to leave the girl without feeling bad.

So I approach every girl as if I already know she's a whore basically. I just flirt and try to pick her up. I am blessed with being attractive and I work out seriously to keep my appearance top notch. I also put on the appearance of being wealthy (which I am not) by wearing suits and driving an expensive car.

So in some ways, you're a professional at spitting game to women. Does this have a big impact on your personal sex life?

it's easier to get laid.. Practice makes perfect!

How do you catch them? What are these resources you speak of?

I am much more "hands on" than my female co-worker counterparts.. One reason being that I am very experienced in this, another being that it's just safer for a man than a woman in this type of job.. This allows me to approach them in person as well as online.

In person I will go to the bar or restaurant that the man tells me she frequents.. Online I will use Facebook or Twitter usually, then transition to email and texts.

By "resources" I mostly mean when I work in person. In person jobs come from local PI companies and pay more for more risk. I work with ThrowawayFlirt for an online based company though.

Some high paying local PI jobs will give me really nice cars to drive and suits to wear.. It's so much easier to seduce a gold digging whore when you look rich!

Thank you so much for doing this AMA. Wall of questions to follow:

How often do you get flat out rejected? Any heart warming stories?

Do people really just add random (good looking) people to their FB accounts? Or do you sometimes have to friend some of their friends so you have more mutual friends before they trust.

What happens if you can't start a conversation via social media sites?

Do you use your own picture on your facebook account? Do you use aliases? If so, how do you come up with alias names, because character name creation is always difficult for me. Maybe your process can help my video game habit. Also, how in depth do you develop your 'character?' You probably do a fake job, but do you ever need to set up a quick fake company/office?

I think if I had your job I'd spend 90% of my time making fake lives for myself. I wouldn't be very productive.

1 out of 4 women will straight up reject me.. It gives me some hope for faithful women!

Some women will just add you no questions asked.. Others will want to know how you found them or why you requested them.

In most of my BMM cases, I pretty much have to have some form of social media outlet. FB, Twitter, even a dating site profile sometimes. But if it's a local PI client then I hit the streets and do it in person.

I do everything as myself. Many in my profession do not, especially the women have to hide more. I just don't care.

Have you ever been on cheaters? And if not, if you were ever asked to appear on the show would you?

I don't think I would be on that show. It would make it harder to do my job. Targets might recognize me and think they were being set up for TV.