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neopetrarch1621 karma

But why male models?

ShineAdams649 karma

Not sure I understand your question, sorry.

ShineAdams870 karma

Above is proof that we are not too smart!

MacroFlash208 karma

But why male models?

ShineAdams402 karma

Are you serious? I just told you that a moment ago.

Edit: OMG! I just figured out the whole 'gold' thing! Thank you!!!

mynameisalso32 karma

Above is proof that we are not too smart!

I CALL SHENANIGANS!! You use the proper too. I stead of to, two, or 2. Gtfo of here Herbert Einstien!

ShineAdams48 karma

I learned to read good after I modeled. Thanks for the compliment!

Justvotingupordown498 karma

You...haven't seen Zoolander?

ShineAdams1018 karma

Okay- Got it. Yeah. We weren't paid for our smarts; just our sheer physical prowess and ability to mindlessly kill on command.

ShineAdams571 karma

I first saw Zoolander in NY, when it opened. There were a LOT of us male models in the audience. The half-asian guy in the movie was there. (I remember him being a touch inflated by his role) Kees Poort was there, Tirian Harvey... It was amazing. I remember being blown away by the inside perspective of the writers.

soulctcher142 karma

But why male models?

ShineAdams91 karma

See above.

ChileanMeerkat792 karma

Is there more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking?

ShineAdams738 karma

I was more of a Hansel, having existential adventures with spider monkeys. I didn't seek as deep as Derek. But seriously; I wish I knew. I hope that Ben Stiller jumps on this thread to tell us! (I love that guy)

PounderMcNasty539 karma

Have you ever shown up to a casting expecting to make $1,000 to $5,000 a day only to find out that the guy isn't a real casting director and there is no job?

ShineAdams492 karma

I've seen movies kinda like that. Usually the "model" is asked to do something naughty. Thankfully; No, I was very lucky to have great representation from the start. If somebody treated me badly at a casting, they would get nothing but my middle finger.

flippityfloppityfloo327 karma

Have you eugogalized?

ShineAdams373 karma

Unfortunately, yes, I have. I was known to say some pretty stupid things on the air. I quit doing interviews after hearing myself talk on Portuguese radio. I was really happy at the time to be sharing a stage with Michael Bolton, and I drank a little too much before the interview...

OzymandiasKoK403 karma

That no talent assclown?

ShineAdams61 karma

Do I know you? Sounds like you know me... ;-)

ShineAdams218 karma

Sorry guys. I'm learning how the flow of Reddit's comment system works. If you are talking about Michael Bolton, I will tell you; That guy is a pro. Before I shared a stage with him, I was pretty grossed-out by his music. Seeing him perform live, without any pitch correction, my opinion was transformed. He is a VERY talented singer. I still don't dig his musical taste too much, but I can say for SURE, that he can sing like a sonovabitch! He is also a really nice guy, unpretentious. I made a crack about him opening for me, and he was quick to pick it up. Whatever you have to say about him, he is a VERY nice guy. (Trust me, I've met a LOT of famous people that are not so cool)

ShineAdams59 karma

Can I put links in the text here? Is that allowed?

myrptaway34 karma

I think so but only the original link, no redirects or link shorteners

ShineAdams37 karma


ShineAdams177 karma

Kenny-Fucken-Powers295 karma

On a scale of 1 to Liberace, how gay are you?

ShineAdams704 karma

I am kinda gay. I have always felt an affinity with the community. I like getting dressed up and being fabulous, but I don't like weenies so much. At one point in my life, I thought it would be easier to get with guys, but alas, my wang disagreed... I am happily in a hetero relationship with rockstar babe Zia McCabe. I'm trying to convince her to do an AMA too. That's part of the reason I'm doing this. To test the waters. In short; I am the kind of gay dude who can't do dick, but truly adores the puss.

Edit: I originally said some insensitive things about my girlfriend above. It didn't occur to me that joking like this might give the impression that my relationship is just about being 'cool,' or having a rockstar as a girlfriend. I would like to explain that Zia is one of my closest and oldest friends. Our time knowing each other has been some of the most amazing time I have spent on this earth. Loving her is my favorite thing to do. I admire her both in and out of her career, and my relationship with her means much more to me than getting bragging rights here. I am sorry that my earlier comments were so reductive. There is a time and a place to joke like that. I chose the wrong one.

Perhapples243 karma

Have you ever had to wear anything ridiculous? Do you feel silly having to walk in some outfits or is it just all in a day's work?

ShineAdams425 karma

Not really... Unless you consider walking down a catwalk in nothing but your underwear, hair extensions, WAYYY too much makeup, and a pair of shoes which are literally 4 sizes too big flopping on your feet "ridiculous..."

ShineAdams527 karma

Hmmm... There is also the Karl Lagerfeld shoot, where I wore one of those plastic shell-backpacks, rollerblades, and medieval armor iron gauntlets, while my makeup consisted of saffron eye-shadow, and my hair was braided into cornrows. -I'll see if I can find the picture online. It IS ridiculous.

MBuddah131 karma

Sounds badass

ShineAdams199 karma

In what way does it sound badass to you? Seriously, I am curious. Thinking about how it must seem to others, I'm normally I am a little embarassed. I would appreciate your commentary.

MBuddah329 karma

When I envision it in my head you're screaming and have a giant fucking sword

I think it's the gauntlets that bring it all together

It's pretty metal bro

ShineAdams161 karma

I found some of the photos.


ShineAdams117 karma


Velvetelvitron28 karma

Confidence while looking/acting ridiculous is pretty badass in my book. I blush at nothing and can't keep a straight face for long.

ShineAdams34 karma

Back then, they shot on film. Photoshop was only used by a few post-production experts in the biz. If you blushed, it showed. Now, they can do anything to the image, wipe out color, no problem.

I was good at turning my emotions off, to look confident and be a good model. Good for pictures, not good for relationships.

Johnnyfiftyfive211 karma

Do you like the song Africa by TOTO ?

*edit in the obligatory link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY

ShineAdams259 karma

Actually, I LOVE it. The harmonies are really tight, the synth work is over the top exactly satisfyingly 80s.

Johnnyfiftyfive61 karma

I was just rocking out to it, I am a fan as well.

ShineAdams86 karma

Good on ya! If you're really into that soft rock thing, here's another one of my faves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Yi762sQTo

ShineAdams12 karma

I LOVE Rick and Morty. I entered their contest to do a voice-over.

Bruc3Campb3ll188 karma

Did you ever go to a beautiful people's club that later turned into a meat packing plant when you brought your friend there?

ShineAdams360 karma

I went to some crazy (beautiful model) party in the meat packing district on NY- I brought my friend there, and he got shitfaced and stole the hostess' big bottle of whiskey. I made him take her flowers and a new bottle of whiskey the next day.

(Then we cut him up into little pieces in a model's satanic ritual of blood.)

Legacy601155 karma

Did you ever get noticed in public?

ShineAdams451 karma

Back in the day, when I would travel to Milan, gangs of little girls (7-11 years old) would chase me through the streets. Nowadays, nobody gives a shit. Male models are kinda disposable...

Legacy601126 karma

Do you still work in the modeling industry?

ShineAdams450 karma

NO! It was very good to me, for a short time, but I am now the Director of a small non-profit in Lawrence, KS, of all places.

neopetrarch147 karma

What was your diet like on a regular day? Was it strictly controlled? Did you work out a lot?

ShineAdams338 karma

I was keeping the pounds off by starving myself, walking to castings, and of course LOTS of drugs!

comet99773 karma

I've heard from female models I know that some girls used to eat cotton or tissues, does this apply to men, and was she just messing with my mind?

vintagetennis120 karma

From my brief experience working as a model (1998 - 2003, so similar era) I think it's almost more competitive for the men than it is for the women and those things do develop in both genders in that industry. I don't think I know anyone who ate cotton or tissues (I feel like that's a bit of an urban legend or something that's told and retold to the point of exaggeration to talk about model extremes.) but I knew and still know some women who don't have normalized eating habits even ten years after quitting the industry.

ShineAdams34 karma


hopstar117 karma

What is this? An AMA for ants?

ShineAdams50 karma


CanuckLoonie113 karma

Few questions for you....

1) Were you 'discovered' or was it something you were trying to attain? If so, what was your story? 2) What were you doing before becoming a model and what have you been doing since? 3) Any good stories you'd care to share with us ugly heathens? hahah JK.

Thank you for your time in answering my questions.

ShineAdams69 karma

Let me get back to this one, after a minute...

ShineAdams121 karma

1&2) I was a musician before I modeled. Lots of photos were being taken of me already, and I got an offer to move to NY, an agency thought I was "ready for Meisel"(A well-known NY photographer) 3)Hmmm... "Good stories?" I suppose you would need to be more specific...

fetalpiggywent2lab65 karma

what is your craziest modely night out that is like Zoolander (like you said)?

ShineAdams245 karma

Well, We could go anywhere. Like; You know those parties with guest lists? Inside you might find a prince of a small country near a tangle of naked, whiskey-soaked models in a hot tub, snorting some powder with a prominent politician, all the while taking turns kissing each other? There were those kinds of nights. It was interesting to go to those kinds of parties, but not as fun as you'd think. No. ...kinda more fun than that...

SquanchAndMorty78 karma

On a scale of 1-10, how good is your Blue Steel?

ShineAdams137 karma

Sadly, I truly believe Blue Steel to be the territory of those greater than I...

ShineAdams198 karma

But honestly? ...8 -definitely an 8...

thevoiceless46 karma

You do realize you have to prove it now, right?

ShineAdams36 karma

HA! I'll upload a pic. http://i.imgur.com/7TWaTZW.jpg

Maybe more of a 7... Getting old :-(

NorbitGorbit68 karma

of zoolander and glamorama, or any other popular fiction, which is considered to be the most unnervingly accurate portrayal?

ShineAdams238 karma

Haven't seen Glamorama. The "model apartment" thing in Zoolander? Spot on. Myself and several other 'emerging talents' had an apartment rented to us, with bunk beds and all. The quest for the tiniest cell phone was a REAL thing. Myself and several other boys I lived with ended up being quite close during that time. The gasoline fight was a little much, but we did a LOT of stupid shit. The insane amount of weird or bitchy, designers and casting people we had to work with was real.

NorbitGorbit62 karma

from all this craziness, who ended up becoming the most normal and well-adjusted afterwards? also, who among such craziness would you consider the most level-headed?

ShineAdams165 karma

Kees Poort. He's got a bunch of kids, lives in upstate NY, doesn't drink or get high... He's just a regular, rich, and incredibly handsome guy who can snap his fingers and kinda get whatever he wants, whenever he wants it. I have changed a lot of things in my life, too, but I blew all my money first. I am now pretty content, clean and sober, a pillar of the community... (I just received a commendation from G. Bush Sr.-weird.) I work at a homeless shelter -nobody there knows about my past. Not even my coworkers.

NorbitGorbit29 karma

how about designers/agency-folk -- any of them seem steady?

ShineAdams166 karma

I will always regret the way I left my French agent. I just told her I didn't need it anymore. I didn't think about how much work she had put in. Her name was Geraldine (NEXT Paris), and she helped make my career. I was selfish and stupid. It didn't occur to me to be thankful.. Geraldine was a great person to work with. She had my back.

br0zarro67 karma

Did you change your name? I tried to look up other pictures and all that came up was your non profit page, which describes you as a carpenter even though it goes into your girlfriend's "rock star" history.

Although he works in Social Service now, Shine Adams has been a carpenter for most of his life. He and a friend thought up the idea of Sun Cedar one day as they were discussing the difficulty felons face when applying for work. Shine believes that feeling useful is paramount in the journey to recovery, and everybody deserves a chance at an honest days work.

ShineAdams30 karma

No- I didn't change my name- I was just on the cusp of the internet's rise. It IS kinda rough to find shit with my name in it, because everything wasn't recorded and filed away back then. If you find more stuff, please message me the links. I don't list my modelling background on Sun Cedar's web page, because I don't want that to get in my way. People think you are stupid, if you were a model. People that are perceived as stupid don't get very far with stuff like Sun Cedar. It is easier for me to be taken seriously without my history attached.

calcasieucamellias13 karma

Yeah, he must have. I can't find any modeling past w/ the name Shine Adams. I found more of the pictures from that YSL campaign, but his name isn't listed on them.

ETA: I did find this list of 2000 campaigns/ models, Shine Adams is listed for Fendi and Kenzo http://blog.uomoclassico.com/2010/11/2000-springsummer-advertising.html. Maybe he just wasn't credited by name very often? It's just weird.

ShineAdams13 karma

We weren't credited much before the internet was mature. If you find more, Please message me the links! I did Kenzo, Fendi (twice), Yves Saint Laurent, L'uomo Vogue, American Vogue... All around '98-2000...

EvanSt1955 karma

What are some misconceptions people have about models?

ShineAdams299 karma

Many of us are vain, or stupid, however; Usually models start VERY young, before they have had a chance to get to know themselves. The business is all about looks. You are rewarded for being attractive or interesting looking, not for being smart, or nice. Many of the dumb models I met were that way because that is all they had been rewarded for. If modeling is your only real education about how life works, it can lead to a very insecure and limited personality. It really IS kinda bad for your head to model. I know it may be hard to feel sorry for someone who is supposedly perfect physically, and has lots of power and money, but just imagine growing up in your teens and 20s in that environment. It is not easy to become a well-rounded adult in that environment. Maybe don't feel sorry for them, just put yourself in their place in the real world, not all the glossy stuff.

broadcasthenet49 karma

1) Why did you stop being a male model?

2) What kind of drugs were most common?

3) Why don't you use the edit button?

4) Why do you think male models are paid so much less than female models?(40+ times less than female models)

ShineAdams13 karma

1) I got so spoiled and weird that I thought I could do anything. 2) For me, Heroin and alcohol., for others- coke. Definitely coke. 3) This is my first time commenting on Reddit. I am new, and don't know how very well. 4) Women buy most clothes. It is a women's market, predominately.

Edit: Please message me any tricks to using Reddit. I feel like I'm lost in a sea of comments!

Dookiestain_LaFlair48 karma

What are male models doing to stop the Islamic conquest of Europe?

ShineAdams127 karma

We don't know. That's the beauty of it. Some trigger, some... signal will alert us when it is time to strike.

Dookiestain_LaFlair18 karma

Keep up the good work!

ShineAdams36 karma


magicmusicman35 karma

A couple of questions! Some of my favorite models were popular in the late 90s and early 2000s! Who was your favorite female model to work with? And who was your favorite designer to work for?

ShineAdams117 karma

My fave female model? Hmmm... I would list Adriana Lima as a stunning person. I did a shoot with her for Interview, where we were dancing with a bunch of other kids. I had to stop dancing with her, because I was becoming too ...focused. (I think she was 16 at the time) -I REALLY adored working with Camelia Clouse and Jen Dawson, Frankie Rayder... They were all really down to earth and fun and funny. Seems like they still are, from our little bit of contact.(Frankie excluded, haven't talked to her.) My favorite designer? Hands down Karl Lagerfeld. Karl is THE real thing. He is a mad genius. He is also really nice. His persona is legit. He is also caring and interested. I have been seriously thinking of reaching out to him, just to say "hello," and "thank you."

magicmusicman15 karma

Awesome! They're all beautiful women! :)

ShineAdams43 karma

I know! God it was difficult to be a gentleman...

myrptaway8 karma

I had to stop dancing with her, because I was becoming too ...focused. (I think she was 16 at the time)

Hahaha amazing tits, huh?

ShineAdams35 karma

Adriana has a PRESENCE that just fills the body with thrilling electricity. She is supernatural.

bymx32 karma

What was the most exciting part about being a model or the part that you enjoyed the most?

ShineAdams97 karma

I loved being in a new country, with money in my pocket, to go explore. I would hire a driver for a week, and just have him show me around, get the best food. Live like a local, and meet people. I love to see the sights of a new place as I lived life, instead of pulling a destination out of a book and sightseeing. I also loved just knowing that I could go anywhere, buy what I wanted, choose my own adventure... That kind of security really feels great.