IamA 21 year old male going through puberty with testosterone therapy.

I'm a 17 year old dude who hasn't gone through puberty. I've been taking tests and such in the last few weeks and I have an appointment at the endocrinologist next month. I just wanted to ask if there's something that's good to have in mind that has helped you through the process? :)

just be patient. I know that you want everything to change really quickly but it's going to be a gradual process. also I wouldn't drink or do drugs for at least the first few months so they can monitor your hormone levels correctly.

you can PM me if you wanna get awkward with weird questions or I can just answer them here.

So is this the first time you have been able to cum I guess? Or that hasn't happened yet.

I started ejaculating a couple of months ago. the first time it was amazing.

and every time after it is still amazing.

Wait, so did you experience any sexual attraction at all before undergoing treatment? If not, how/when did you realize you were gay?

I've always been emotionally attracted to men, but being physically attracted is a blessing and a curse.

it must be like listening to the beatles for the first time again every time

it was more like the first time I heard Strobe by Deadmau5

Does this mean you can discover 4chan all over again? :D

o i am laffin.

Just wanted to thank you for doing this AMA. There are a lot of people who went/are going through this difficult time in their lives. I was taking testosterone when I was 14-15. I remember not going to the pool with friends because I was the only one without armpit hair, or having to say no to a HJ because of my bald eagle at the time. It all works out for the best eventually. I'm 22 and have about 5 chest hairs now, so I've got that going for me, which is nice.

no worries. insecurities suck.

Brother, I was once in the same boat. I went for 30 years with an undiagnosed pituitary tumor, so I didn't go through puberty until age 31. But correct me if I'm wrong... but it feels fucking great, right?

It does feel pretty good. I have a deep voice, I'm getting muscle and I'm confident as ever. I'm happy for you too. Getting diagnosed at all was really difficult.

Jesus, try going 30 fucking years. I kept telling doctors that something was up... but they'd say, "Different people have different body types!" or (my favorite) "Maybe you're a late bloomer."

A man is defined by more than his muscle, chest hair or Unit size. But I'll be damned if those things don't make life just a little more wonderful. I'm sorta shocked when I hear guys complain about having to shave... As if!

And here's a little tidbit to keep you going: It just keeps getting better!

Cheers, mate. Welcome to the Big Boys club.

(Now get your ass to the gym.)

thanks dude, that means so much to me.

What's the biggest difference you've noticed?

my voice is way deeper than what it used to be. I actually recorded the difference if anyone wants to hear.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1CylbbFI6MI

sorry for the bad quality of audio.

You have a hot voice.

....th..a.a.nks.

That might be a girl. You'll probably become very interested in them soon.

I'm gay but a compliment is a compliment.

Well hey there

hello? how are you?

I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, but how did not hitting puberty until now affect your sexuality? Have you known that you are gay for a while or is a recent discovery?

I've known I was gay since I was 16.

Hey ;)

send photo.

Sure thing PM?

yerp.

Are you still accepting "hey"'s? ;)

absolutely. get aboard my self esteem train.

Do you think not having testosterone was part of the reason you grew up to be gay?

no.

You went from sounding like a small skinny lesbian to a hot buff british guy.

I'm Australian but thanks!

As someone who has been to both places, you'd think I could pick up on the difference. Really bad audio quality I guess haha.

macbook pro photobooth is what all the professionals use.

Wow! That sounds great haha. Bet that feels really different.

It's weird but it still sounds exactly the same to me in my head.

Do you mean the recording sounds the same, or your voice when you speak?

In my head it sounds the same. But the first time I compared the two tracks of audio I flipped out at how different it sounds. It's so crazy how the mind compensates our self image for our own self esteem.

This is one of the best bits about going through puberty via testosterone therapy, as your voice doesn't crack or break like others, it just goes deeper.

It definitely cracked. I sounded like a whistle for a few weeks.

Is it me or did you turn slightly English after the testosterone therapy.

Voice sounds good bro. No homo!

I have no idea, but thanks!

also I no longer feel hangovers.

Would you say it's more or less awkward to go through puberty in your twenties as opposed to your teens? I guess you can go by how your friends/peers responded to typical puberty. Also, are there any differences in 'normal' puberty and induced puberty?

It's less awkward for me. All my friends know about it and are really supportive. Almost everyone I bother to tell are genuinely interested and have a lot of questions. random boners are a bit awkward though.

I assume my experiences are exactly the same which every guy went through.

Can confirm random boners. They're less prevalent if you take care of them in the morning.

By that he means masturbate. You know, in case it wasn't clear.

oh shit. I can't handle all these euphemisms.

Hey! I am an FTM also undergoing testosterone therapy currently. Obviously, we FTMs have to take T for life, because male puberty will never just come naturally. Is it the same in your case? Or will your body eventually favor that post-pubescent state and you will no longer need it?

I will have to be taking T for the rest of my life. My brain doesn't produce testosterone naturally. We'll both be injecting and being oh-so manly in no time.

That we will. ;) I wish you the best of luck with all your manly beard growing and such. I'm sure you're as excited as I am.

When you spend the majority of your teenage years and young adult life craving some masculinity and finally recognise what you need to do and how to do it, it's a massive relief.

How much did your penis grow?

It's grown about a centimeter or two.

How long is it now?

At least a centimeter or two.

math checks out.

On a scale of 1 to "21 year old male going through puberty", how horny are you right now?

Not very horny actually. I'd probably rate myself as a "21 year old male who would be up for it but also wants to stay inside and play hearthstone".

I'm a 32 year old married man and would rate myself the same. Hearthstone is damn addicting. So to ask you anything... what rank kind of deck are you playing?

I only just started playing a couple of days ago so I'm still casual. I only play hunter though. It's so much fun.

Have you ever had sex?

Still a virgin.

Im going through the same thing as a 16 year old, it nice when girls start approaching you because "wow, you're voice is deeper and your taller" but damn that blow to self confidence for me is still heavy

I went through it so many times. When I people started calling me more manly and sexier then it was a great feeling.

Thanks for the followup dude, glad to see things are going well!

Yeah man! Thanks for all the help over the passed few months!

OP are you lifting? please tell me you are lifting

I lift 4 days a week, terribly.

I looked 15 till I was 25. I often couldn't buy cigarettes or alcohol because clerks thought my legally-valid ID was fake. Doctors said I was a late bloomer.

Looking young shows you just how ageist and wrongly-condescending people can be. It's difficult overcoming that prejudicial first impression, especially in a competitive or professional environment where people try to assert any form of dominance they can.

Definitely. I'm getting a lot more respect lately just because of my deep voice and more masculine presence.

What is your disorder? Is it Kleinfelter's syndrome?

hypogonadotropic hypogonadism. very similar to Kleinfelter's syndrome.

If you don't mind my asking, what exactly is that?

They're basically exactly the same but people with Kleinfelter's have either an impaired or nonexistant sense of smell.

That's Kallmann syndrome (tertiary hypogonadism)

oh really? damn.

I haven't read the original AMA, so do forgive me if this has already been answered:

Did you endure bullying for your regression in school? Did you deal with it?

I didn't get bullied that much in school. I didn't really draw attention to myself. After school it got a lot worse and I caught a lot of flack for the way I looked and talked.

Gotta say, thank you for doing this AMA. I'm a sixteen year old who hasn't really gone through that much of puberty, and I see freshmen growing full on beards, which made me pretty insecure. But this really helps. Thanks :)

No worries dude, a beard isn't everything. Most people care about the way you to talk to them.

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• I've put on about 10 kilos. I have trouble bulking but it's my own fault. I've put on a way more strength then what I used to have but if I ate more I would be hulking out.
• People put me at between 16 and 18 now. My voice has dropped and I'm tall but I still look really young.
• I would get them but not as much as the first few months on testosterone.
• No complications.
• I know I'm beautiful and fuck the haters. All jokes aside, I'm getting a lot less comments on my appearance lately.
• I go to university. It's fun, I meet a lot of people and party a lot.

That all sounds great!

How much longer will the treatment go on?- Are you still progressing after six months?

I'm going to be taking testosterone for the rest of my life but my doctor estimated my puberty will go on for about 2 years. I still got a long way to go.

I'm honestly interested, so in that case, you better do an update in 2 years ;)

no worrieez. Will do.

You mentioned you were fertile. Have this been confirmed by your endcronologist? Im just curious as I was told I could never have have kids on my own, tho I do have bigger dosage of testosteron than you. Imgur

I'm infertile. I could take gonadoloids to become fertile but it would take about 2 years of treatments.

Wait... so you basically have free birth control until you want kids? That sounds awesome!

For me, it's kinda wasted on the fact that I don't really want to have sex with women, nor impregnate them but I can see why a single straight man would find it convenient.

Have you noticed any changes in how you see or interact with others/the world around you? I ask from the point of view of a teacher. Seeing my 14- and 15-year-olds suddenly become more socially mature is fascinating, but I don't know how much of that has to do with puberty and how much is just from adding more years of experience.

I've always been confident and mature but now that my physical presence backs up my personality it works wonders. I mentally developed but my body didn't keep up.

Please?

Uggghhh fine. Give me a bit. It's night in a Australia and I need the lighting to be right.

I'm not actually posting a picture of my dick by the way.

so you couldn't grow any pubic or body hair on your own? must have been awkward during high school.

I could grow pubic and body hair. just not a manly amount.

Did you have to wear deodorant before? I'm sure one of the more unpleasant things about puberty is body odor. What has that been like for you?

I still don't sweat that much but I'm always cold from having an extremely low body fat percentage and no muscle mass.

Have you got a beard yet?! And what did you look like before this? I can't imagine a 20 year old who hasn't gone through puberty. Has your voice broken?

I've got some scruff on the sides of my face and my chin but nothing manly. I'm getting my dosage of testosterone upped tomorrow so I'm hoping the beard will come soon.

I looked like a really tall 12 year old. now I look like a kinda tall 15 year old.

My voice has broken.

Do you know if this kind of condition can happen to females aswell?

Yes, my mum has it. It's a genetic disorder and I got it from my mum. She was diagnosed at 25 and didn't produce any oestrogen.

Will this make your penis bigger or will it have no effect? (Serious question)

My penis is growing for the testosterone.

what height are you? have you grown significantly since you've testosterone therapy?

I'm 184cm. I'm getting lots of growth pains but I haven't really noticed that much height difference.

As an American, huh?

6 foot bro. metric all the way.

Which testosterone replacement option has your endo recomended? Are you taking any other meds as a part of your treatment?

For 6 months now I have been taking testosterone undeconoate capsules. Tomorrow I'm seeing my endocrinologist and I he will for sure be putting me onto a testosterone gel.

Ask about Axiron as well. It is less of a gel than a liquid. It is applied to the underarms with a deodorant like applicator. I have a prolactinoma causing low T and Axiron provided the stable levels with the easiest application and the least mess. The gels are applied by hand, the applicator makes a big difference when it comes to the daily routine of clean up without cross contaminating your environment.

Awesome. I'll ask my doc about it.

How did you find out you have never gone through puberty? Which specific indicators led you to seek medicinal advice? Thanks for the AMA.

My voice hadn't cracked, my face was shiny and new, I had no muscle and I weighed 50kg. I started going to the gym to work on my pitiful self to try and find some glimmer of self confidence. After a year of not seeing any progress I got my testosterone levels checked and the rest is history.

Just out of curiosity, you mentioned being gay, do you think that might change once the treatments have finished? Do you find yourself more curious about girls now?

I would have sex with a girl just to see what it's like but I'm not physically or emotionally attracted to them in anyway.

Would it worry you if that changes with the more testosterone you receive?

Not really. I believe that sexuality is a spectrum but it would be a bit weird explaining to my friends that I went from gay to bi.

Serious question, when they did tests, did they find higher than normal estrogen levels?

No, it just came back that I had low levels of testosterone. My estrogen levels were normal for me.

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I have secondary hypogonadism which means my sexual organs developed and I got armpit and pubic hair but no facial hair, deep voice or muscle growth.

Pics?

nah man, if I don't post pics I can answer every personal question in all it's hormonal awkwardness without repercussions.

How's your dictation machine?

I'm too busy answering questions and doing other things to adhere to the rules of grammar.