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I am Kartick Satyanarayan, co-founder of Wildlife SOS in India. My team and I recently rescued Raju the elephant, who had endured 50 years of cruelty. "The elephant who cried" is now safe in our care. Ask me anything.
Hello, reddit. We at Wildlife SOS were INCREDIBLY inspired to see your community's response to our work, in particular the saving of Raju the Elephant. I co-founded Wildlife SOS in 1995 to help drive lasting change to protect and conserve India's natural heritage, forests and wildlife wealth. We have helped save the last of the dancing bears in India, for example, in addition to our work with elephants like Raju. You can learn more about our work on our official site here. I am looking forward to taking your questions, so AMA."
PROOF : https://twitter.com/WildlifeSOS/status/490493462588841985
Thank you all so much for taking the time to come ask me questions and learn about what Wildlife SOS does to protect animals in India. Your support is deeply appreciated. On behalf of Raju and all the animals we protect, we thank you. For further information please feel free to send an email on [email protected]
WildlifeSOS346 karma
Yes, we rely on information passed on to us by animal lovers, informers who work for us on our anti poaching unit and forest department who alert us to such incidents. We welcome information being reported on [email protected]
merrderber225 karma
I myself am from a small village which lives in a rain forest. I have seen the destruction first hand of logging company's. They have destroyed my mothers home and have been in a court battle over the rights of the land since 2001. My question is, how did you manage to start your foundation and overcome your difficulties? Sometimes as a young person, I feel like there is nothing I can do to help?
WildlifeSOS199 karma
Dont ever Give up! Believe in yourself and you must be prepared for the long haul, a little sacrifice and frustration. You will succeed.
WildlifeSOS330 karma
You too. Also dont buy a weapon even though you will be tempted to take things into your own hands.
RacksDiciprine200 karma
Do the animals you rescue have trust issues with humans since they have been mistreated their entire life? How do you combat these trust issues?
WildlifeSOS296 karma
Yes, the animals we rescue often have serious trust issues. It takes a long time and a lot of patience to rebuild the trust with these animals. Quite often it means we have to be very careful with our tones and behave very cautiously in the presence of these animals who have been traumatised so they disassociate their past trauma with their present situation and current environment. It is however easier said than done! You can read some of our rescue stories on www.wildlifesos.org and on www.facebook.com/wildlifesosindia
RacksDiciprine117 karma
This organization is really doing a good thing. I wish you the best and look forward to hear more about your "adventures"
WildlifeSOS274 karma
yes, There is a long wish list that we need for Raju. We need Diesel Generators to fill his pond with fresh water, a tractor & a trolley to get him fresh fodder, Darting equipment, Medicines, Medical equipment like a mobile ultrasound, intravenous fluids, deep freeze for supplies, refrigerator for medicines etc. I can email a list to you if you can email me on [email protected]
WildlifeSOS188 karma
There are several ways to help Raju and the nine other rescued elephants who are now part of his family. Make a monthly pledge to support Wildlife SOS on https://donatenow.networkforgood.org/raju Other ways are to volunteer with Wildlife SOS and help us with the elephants hands on. Volunteer applications are received on our email [email protected] with subject line - volunteer
snuffleupagus7111 karma
Do you think things in India (and other countries that use elephants for work/tourism) are getting better as far as treatment of elephants and how they are viewed? I visited India a few months ago for the first time and was concerned about all the elephants I saw in tourist areas, like Amber Fort.
WildlifeSOS242 karma
Amber Fort in Jaipur is a hell hole for elephants. The elephants are very badly treated and Wildlife SOS plans to start some serious intervention there as well. We want to start a mobile elephant clinic and other interventions to monitor the health and the welfare of the elephants here. Sadly everything to do with elephants requires large amounts of funds and this is the only thing preventing us from moving forward in this direction faster!
GlobularDuke88 karma
What are some of the hardest challenges you face when trying to save wildlife?
WildlifeSOS139 karma
The hardest challenges when trying to save wildlife is to manage a mob especially when its a human wildlife conflict situation. And then theres the challenge with financial resources that we need to find to help save and protect wildlife
WildlifeSOS148 karma
Yes, some have gone wrong and it has even resulted in an unruly mob attacking our rescue team and injuring our staff in the process (sometimes)
WildlifeSOS106 karma
We will be initiating legal action against the people who were responsible and are putting together a legal fund to support the legal appeal we plan to proceed with against the previous custodians of Raju who caused him this suffering!
JunkyBuGGer20 karma
Sweet, hope it all works out for you and those people get what's coming to them.
WildlifeSOS42 karma
Yes, We hope that Justice will prevail. We will keep you updated if you sign up for the Wildlife SOS newsletter on www.wildlifesos.org
WildlifeSOS23 karma
Thank you :-) We need all the luck we can get thrown in our direction and of course support...
cuntdumpling67 karma
I don't know a ton about India or Indian elephants, but is this kind of abuse common? How many elephants have Wildlife SOS rescued?
WildlifeSOS119 karma
Wildlife SOS has rescued 11 elephants so far. Raju is our eleventh rescue! Sadly elephants in India do get abused but this was excruciatingly painful to watch. Wildlife SOS has a long term plan to introduce humane elephant management using positive reinforcement in an attempt to slowly change people's mindsets about using the traditional but cruel and inhumane method of training, managing and treating elephants.
sstr67746 karma
Hi! Thank you for all that you do. I very much admire your work. I have always been interested in wildlife rescue. I got my undergrad in wildlife management and a masters in conservation biology. I had hoped to be a wildlife rescuer, but was not able to find any career opportunities in it (even very few internships). I now work in large breed dog rescue and ADORE what I do, but would someday still love to work with wildlife. How did you get started in the work that you do?
WildlifeSOS95 karma
I started my wildlife career working on a tiger ecology status survey project across several National Parks in India. I started Wildlife SOS in 1995 with another co founder who was equally passionate about the cause. Im sure we could find you an internship in India if you are still interested. Send us an email to [email protected]
Cliffhanger_baby39 karma
Hello Kartick, thank you for doing this AmA.
Firstly, Have you ever had a rescue go wrong? If so, what happened?
Secondly, what aspect of your job is the hardest? Maybe some things you have had to come to terms with or particular challenges?
Finally, thank you very much for your contributions and for what you do.
WildlifeSOS97 karma
Thank you. Im delighted to be able to connect with the Reddit community. Working with people is the hardest challenge and working with the animals is of course the easiest and the most fulfilling. We had a bear rescue in a state next to Delhi that went terribly wrong and put our team at severe risk. We have also had anti poaching operations that have gone terribly wrong and i have found myself staring at the barrel of an automatic weapon! Thankfully we had police backup and escaped with our life by the skin of our teeth!
Cliffhanger_baby45 karma
Wow. I can only say that you are hardcore. I cannot imagine having stared down the barrel of a gun and still continue to do what you do.
I admire you, your team and the work you do.
One more question if you have the time, do you believe that the animals you have rescued realize what you and your team have done for them, or is it more of a human projection onto the animal?
Thank you very much for your time.
WildlifeSOS82 karma
I think animals often realise that. but we as humans must learn not to expect gratitude. I think we also try to help animals to fulfil our desire to make a difference as well. We have to live life to the fullest and give back as much as we can. Take as little as possible while giving as much :-) You can come and volunteer with us in India if you like. Write to us on [email protected]
Cliffhanger_baby19 karma
Thank you for the volunteering info. I hope your organization may benefit from this AmA.
What are your hopes for the future of your organization? What about the future of the relationship between humans and animals? What might your position be on the idea of zoos?
Once again, thank you for your time and answers!
WildlifeSOS41 karma
I hope Wildlife SOS is able to create a platform of change to help people understand wildlife, biodiversity and animals around them and learn to coexist with nature in a more mature and accepting way. For Wildlife SOS to be effective we need all the support we can get and we need people to stand behind us and help us be effective. Zoos can be valuable conservation education tools if they can ensure the welfare of the animals they have in their care. Often the challenge is to ensure zoo animals have a naturalistic environment and are provided all the enrichment they require to prevent boredom. This is difficult as zoos are in cities where real estate becomes a premium very soon. Zoos can ensure better care if they have larger land parcels which they can then use for the animals in their care.
sugardrowse36 karma
how come it took 50 years in captivity. Was raju that well hidden by the owner?
WildlifeSOS70 karma
Yes, Raju was well hidden and used in extremely rural areas along the Indo nepal border. His situation was reported to us when he was noticed by forest officers in Allahabad city in Uttar Pradesh
Jenartist9928 karma
After a couple weeks with you, how is Raju's spirits? Do you think that the other elephants have communicated with him to help him feel at ease?
WildlifeSOS62 karma
Raju is a survivor. He has taught us a lot! His spirit was broken when we rescued him. Now we can see that he is sensing that he is at a better place. His immediate neighbour is Rajesh the big tusker bull who often calls out to him. Here's a photo of Rajesh playing in the rain. The presence of the other elephants around Raju is helping to reassure him that he is safe now!
mscandle22 karma
Unfortunately the picture isn't there, can you try and reattach it? Thanks!
WildlifeSOS52 karma
Here's a picture of Rajesh. If you still cant see it please go to www.facebook.com/wildlifesosindia and then look for the post from yesterday.
Kuteengkili27 karma
What do you think is the best way to balance between the poor villagers' needs for survivorship and the conservation of threatened species? Eco-tourism has always been touted as the panacea but from what I gather, the revenue is less than expected in many places where it has been implemented.
WildlifeSOS61 karma
The best way to balance poor villagers needs for survivorship and conservation of threatened species is to use a sustainable model to improve the quality of life of the communities that are forest or wildlife dependant. Wildlife SOS has been working extensively with indigenous communities who have been traditional hunters and dependant on wildlife for their livelihoods. 40% of Wildlife SOS staff belong to these communities. Today, a lot of our wildlife rescue staff are former poachers. Here are two examples of how Wildlife SOS works with communities in a sustainable manner
http://www.ted.com/talks/kartick_satyanarayan_how_we_rescued_the_dancing_bears
ruffyro24 karma
I heard that keeping elephant bulls can be very dangerous. How do you handle them, compared to the females? Do you have to separate them from other male elephants? And what happens when they are in musth?
Thank you for your answer and all the great work you do for animals!
WildlifeSOS43 karma
Managing bull elephants is certainly a lot more complex than managing cow elephants. When they are in musth they need privacy, quiet and very careful and gentle handing. However we have learnt that with the right kind of management, you can manage bulls in musth also without too much trouble. Exercising them during musth is the challenge. To address this Wildlife SOS is working to buy land for expanding our elephant center. It costs us about 50,000$ per acre and we need at least 10 acres to address this issue immediately. So we need about 500,000$ for securing the land for the elephants. This can help us manage the bull elephants in a much better way.
ImaStardust21 karma
Thank you so much for everything that you do! I am now a monthly contributor to Wildlife SOS and I have learned so much from the experience with Raju. One of the things that has horrified me is the "training" baby elephants receive called phajaan. Does your organization work to fight this type of abuse?
WildlifeSOS19 karma
Yes, We are in the process of working with the Karnataka Forest Department to help them develop a humane elephant management system to replace the traditional elephant training methods based on negative reinforcement in Sakrebaylu elephant camp where there was an elephant calf whose training video has been doing the rounds on the net.
WildlifeSOS47 karma
Once Raju's health improves and he is stable then he will spend more time with the other elephants. At the moment, although he is a very large elephant, he is so weak that he could be pushed over or injured accidentally if any of the other elephants even playfully pushed him or bumped into him.
WildlifeSOS26 karma
There are several ways to help Raju and the nine other rescued elephants who are now part of his family. Make a monthly pledge to support Wildlife SOS on https://donatenow.networkforgood.org/raju Other ways are to volunteer with Wildlife SOS and help us with the elephants hands on. Volunteer applications are received on our email [email protected] with subject line - volunteer
tristes_tigres18 karma
What is Raju's health condition presently, are you confident of his recovery? Does he need surgery on his wounds?
WildlifeSOS44 karma
Yes, we are confident of Raju's recovery. But it will take a long time. He may require surgery at some point of time. His legs which were subjected to chaining, spearing and spiking are infected and filled with puss. We do need a lot of medicines and medical equipment in addition to his water therapy pool which will help him take the weight off of his legs to help him rest his legs.
Yardobeef18 karma
How problematic are circuses to your cause these days? Are there certain ones or all that should be boycotted?
WildlifeSOS28 karma
Circuses in India are not supposed to elephants. Wildlife SOS will be launching an appeal to gather signatures to bring an end to the use of elephants in circuses across India. However there are close to 80 elephants that need to be rescued from these circuses where they are held captive in very appalling conditions. It will require a lot of financial resources to make this happen. With your support we can make this happen.
WildlifeSOS27 karma
In the first year we would need a minimum of about 100,000 $ USD to provide for Raju's care. Of course this includes the infrastructure required for his shelter, pool etc. From year two onwards we would not require the infrastructure but he will still cost us around 50,000$ to 60,000$ a year. This includes his medical care, feeding, long term maintenance, enrichment. From our observation it looks like Raju may have special needs to help him recover from his past trauma. We do need some medical equipment like an ultrasound and some other equipment for his treatment.
Su-Ian11 karma
How do I volunteer with Wildlife SOS India? Is there a short term or long term program?
WildlifeSOS15 karma
Yes, we can have volunteers from one day to 6 months. So volunteers can write in to us at [email protected] to learn more details about this program. We also have been having gap year students from the US volunteering with us just last week
Su-Ian11 karma
How can i donate specifically for Raju's wish list? I mean for seperate items?
WildlifeSOS13 karma
Yes of course. You can make a specific donation for Raju on https://donatenow.networkforgood.org/raju
You can also email us for his wish list which we hope to also put up soon on www.facebook.com/wildlifesosindia
WildlifeSOS17 karma
It took us several weeks to plan the rescue operation. There was legal paper work we need to secure for his custody which also took us almost a year before we could start planning the rescue operation itself
captainkirkw8 karma
Will you be setting up a specific page for Raju where people can make donations or see the list you mentioned?
WildlifeSOS11 karma
Here is a specific page where people can make donations to help Raju and make a monthly pledge https://donatenow.networkforgood.org/raju Other ways are to volunteer with Wildlife SOS and help us with the elephants hands on. Volunteer applications are received on our email [email protected] with subject line - volunteer Im not sure how to attach a list in Reddit :-) Pls email us on [email protected] and we shall send you the wish list. We will also be putting a wish list on our website shortly.
AtheistComic7 karma
What happens to Earth when there is no longer any habitat for animals? Realistically the turning point is coming so what is the plan?
WildlifeSOS25 karma
When that actually happens there will also be no trees and no oxygen! Im not sure it may be very habitable at that time. Hopefully many of us wont live to see that day. I certainly dont want to...
WildlifeSOS11 karma
Yes, we have proof from statements of his mahout and his current health as well as some old documents we recovered from the possession of the people who had Raju in their custody.
escher123286 karma
How do you go about finding animals such as Raju that need rescuing? Do you rely on tips?
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