I stabbed my middle/high school bully during the last quarter of my senior year three times. AMA

Did you stab when he was bullying you or did you came to him? Were there people around?

It happened like this..

During 7th period (Our final period) he kept throwing paper at me and cutting his throat with his finger. I kept looking away from him and holding onto that knife in my pocket... We get up to leave, and I'm thinking to my self "This shit is crazy, i'd never actually do something like that, haha"

Then all of a sudden he turns around, talks some shit and before I even have the chance to say anything he kicks me VERY hard in the nuts, and punches me so hard that my tooth actually goes through my lip. At that time I'm pushed backwards on my best friend into a door, he pushes me up and says "Get him!"

I black out there, but after I come to I'm standing there with blood on the floor, lockers and knife screaming "You will never bully anyone else again, you're done" and I just kept saying "You're threw with this shit!" "You're Done!" over, and over.

There were 50 or so kids circled around us in the hallway after it was done.

Had you considered before the stabbing, or even after, to press charges on the bully? A kick to the nuts is very clearly assault.

I went through a similar amount of bullying through middle school. I was constantly being harrased, spit on, pushed around, punched, and "peter tapped" (the bullies' friendly way of saying punched in the balls). Most of this happened during gym class due to lack of proper supervision and I started to get really afraid and anxious on the days I had gym class, wondering what they would do next to hurt me. It's hard for me to support stabbing someone as I'm very against violence, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't seriously consider doing something similar, or even worse. The psychological effect that constant bullying has is really frightening. I'm still dealing with after effects today, and I only dealt with that mess for three years. I can't imagine what it would be like to have doubled that time.

So how are you doing now? I know you said you have a lot of mental anguish from the whole ordeal, but I hope things have gotten somewhat better for you.

So how are you doing now? I know you said you have a lot of mental anguish from the whole ordeal, but I hope things have gotten somewhat better for you.

It seems like i've been in a 'funk' ever since high school. Don't know what else to really say.

You said you went through rehab etc.....if you were to be faced with the same situation again, would you do the same thing? Do you think the current methods of punishment are effective?

No I would just bare through it if I could choose to do it again. I bared though it for almost 6 years, but in the end I just cracked.

I'm not one to say about other states, but in West Virginia - No I don't believe bullying is taken serious AT ALL! At least it wasn't when I was in school. I'm 23 now though, but I doubt things have changed.

Did anyone, at anytime ever stick up for you? A friend? Stranger?

No one stuck up for me...if you stuck up for someone you were just ASKING to be on the food menu. Maybe if someone did stick there neck out for me before it got to that point things would of turned out different.

Hey man, I will make sure to raise my boys (I got three of them) to help out those in your situation. I want my kids to be those who help others in need and never take advantage of or bully others. I believe it is up to those of us who can help to do just that. Thank you for sharing your story.
I believe this story is more than just about your revenge, but more so something many of us need to think about as we go through life.

More respect to you man - but keep an eye on them. Be sure they don't just become victims, because it's hard to cry for help when you're being treated like trash everyday.

It almost seemed hopeless in my position, everytime I did, and believe me I did... a lot... enough to learn that it just lead to the teachers writing up some shit on paper, and me exiting the room to get my ass kicked. Over, and over.

Dude. You need to move. See some better places, to restore your faith in humanity. That is a fucked up story.

Dude. You need to move.

if only it were that easy man

Out of interest, what's keeping you where you are?

Money mostly.

Reports to The Logan Banner have said that the student who is accused in the stabbing was bullied by the victim. Zigmond said that reports of bullying being the cause of one student stabbing another have not been proven. "That did not show up in my investigation. I can't say that bullying was involved in this. I don't know that," Zigmond said. "What happened was bad and we're trying to get to the bottom of it. Could we have prevented this? Absolutely not. I don't think anyone could have. Sometimes, you can't stop someone from doing something if you're sitting on top of them."

Wilma Zigman - what a bitch. She acted like she knew like nothing was going on the ENTIRE time to save the BoE a few extra bucks.

Anyone else going through this - DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. Bring an audio recorder to every meeting with the principal. Record every time the bully fucks with you and exactly what he does. Cover your ass.

Best advise on the thread. Document everything if you can!

Why?

With what?

Did he live?

What were the consequences?

Did he ever bully you again?

Why? Every day imagine this feeling.

You arrive at school and head to the breakfast line to get some food. You are so nervous about the day already starting out terrible due to the Bully and his posse. But you're lucky today - no outbursts.

You get your food, and sit down with your best buddies. You start to take the first bite of your food, and before it even entering your mouth it's smacked out of your hands, and you're called a queer, faggot, retard, loser, waste. Every day it was different.

There was pain in gym class which i had to retake my senior year due to FEAR in my freshmen year of taking it.

I even was in this program called "Shop". It's where kids went to another facility on a bus to learn a trade. I had to use the same bus as him due to our last names being close. Alphabetical order (Even if i tried sneaking on the other bus i'd just get in trouble)

When the kid would get on, or off the bus i'd get physically slapped, punched or pushed along with tons of name calling that was just hurtful. I remember specifially these things they would make with soda bottles where they would let all the air out, twitch it up to an extreme amount, seal the bottle and launch the cap off VERY hard hitting me in the back of the head.

Now recap that from your 6th grade year up until your senior year, and yes I tried talking to councilers who had it written down that I'd receive some sort of help - but it seemed like nothing helped. I had told the crooked principle, dean and numerous teachers, and with the exception of a FEW teachers it just seemed like me saying anything just got myself into more trouble with them.

With what? A friends pocket knife

Did he live? Yes I stabbed him in the lower part of his neck, his shoulder, and his side.

My consequences? I was under house arrest a month, probation 6 months, 6 years of hell on earth and not being able to even attend my graduation.

Did he bully me again? Nope - never saw him again after that day.

So our lesson from this guy's school is, kids, if someone is bullying you, you will have to stab him to get him to stop. Because we don't give a fuck. Wow.

That's a good summary. My state is backwards as fuck, if you aren't into sports, like nascar or go fishing/drinking every day and night you're not important.

So basically: The only way for bullies to stop bullying you is for you to get arrested. What a wonderful world.

I'm sure other places do things a little better then my state.

I remember actually telling the principle "I only got on the other bus because John Doe was hurting me." and him replying "Son we'll take this up in my office later, I don't want to hear anymore! Now get on that bus!"

I actually got 3 days of inschool suspension because of that...but that was great...I didn't have to see the ass hole John Doe for 3 days. It was okay in my mind at the time.

File a lawsuit. I'm not kidding - the principal was negligent in his duties, and the school system will have repercussions if you take it over his head.

We did, and had a very intelligent lawyer.

Sadly politics control this state HEAVILY, and we lost. Well, we won, but I was estimated to get in the six figures, and received 2,000$.

Verified.

Thanks

I kind of want to know how you verified... did you show him the knife?

articles and ID.

Oh man, thats retaliation if I've ever heard, was the feeling after doing it a load off your shoulders and you felt great? Or did you/do you feel bad about it?

How was he bullying you?

Do I feel bad about it? Not at all. The person that I won't name still seems like the worst person I've ever met in my entire life.

I honestly don't remember doing it either - I remember everything before, and after the stabbing. When I actually did it - I feel like I may of blacked out during it. Maybe some smart person on here can explain to me what happened.

He would physically, and mentally hurt me 5 days of the week. I had missed so much school that my mother was going to get in trouble if I kept missing. She had snuck over to the principles office many times because I told her if anyone seen her i'd get the shit beat out of me by the kid.

By physical I mean - punches/slaps to the face for NO reason at all. Pushed into people, tripped while walking down the two flight staircase, or hallway. I even had my nose busted once in the bathroom, and the kid didn't get in trouble. I'll go ahead and mention I live in a really backwards part of west virginia...

Mentally? My dead dog became a real hit with the kids to make fun of - that was really great. "Gay" actually rhymes with my first name so you can imagine. "Queer" "Retard" "Waste" "Idiot" the list goes on.

I had a similar bullying situation in middle school. It only ended when I stabbed my bully in the stomach with a sharpened pencil when the teacher wasn't looking.

As far as I know, it was a pretty minor wound, because he just slunk off back to his desk and never said a word to me or hit me ever again. I had actually brought a pen knife with me a couple of days in a row, thinking I might use that, but opted for the sharpened pencil and, boy, I'm glad I did. I can't imagine what my life would be like if I'd actually done permanent damage to him, gotten caught, etc.

There's only so much a kid can take and he/she doesn't really have the cognitive skills to think through all of the consequences of his or her actions. Anyways, I just thought I'd share.

Sorry you had to go through hell as well - hope things are looking brighter now, my friend.

Damn. That sounds rough. It's a shame that there will always be people like that in highschool somewhere that have had lack of proper nurturing or parenting or some past event that affected their development negatively. It's not fair for others to pay the price.

What seems like happened though is called "Tachypsychia" and is here if you want to read about it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachypsychia That might explain some.

Sadly that's is the truth, and I do not have a solution for it.

I appreciate the article, I'll give it a read.

What were the ramifications of said action?

I served 6 months probation, a month of house arrest and a week in a juvenile detention center, and a lot of mental anguish.

Did anyone stand up to him before the stabbing?

No. No one ever stood up to him.

Wow! After getting stabbed in the lower part of his neck, his shoulder, and his side what was his condition? Hospital? Stitches? Scarring?

I'm sure there was scarring I never actually saw him again , but I know he had stitches because I overheard the judge talking about it - and I was charged with "Malicious Wounding"

What was the school's reaction? Was there any recognition that they had failed you leading up to this point? Also, any media coverage?

I don't know about any videos, but here is an article I can share.

http://www.wsaz.com/news/headlines/36181579.html

Also - They acted like they knew NOTHING was happening. This was because I had opened up a court case vs the BoE to try to get back something for losing 6 years of my life to an ass hole. Sadly I only came out with 2,000. This was a blessing REGARDLESS seeing as I come from a very poor-modest family.

It baffled me how much they lied though, even though there were numerous teachers testifying for me, and written agreements it would be STOPPED that my mom had got the teachers/principle/dean to write. I guess politics run my state though.

What is something about bullying that you think everyone should know?

Stop doing it.

I'm about to go to bed but wanted you to know I'm really sorry to hear about the 6 years of bullying. I really don't like how it turned out. But you've got a future ahead of you that I'm sure will be brighter and better than anything you've experienced thus far (which I'm sure wouldn't be hard to beat).

Thanks man - I appreciate it the hope. Sleep well.

Before the stabbing did you ever try to tell a teacher/principal/administer about the person that was bullying you? If so what did they do? Edit: grammar

Yes. A LOT! My MOM even did a buncha times!

Nothing happened, they PROMISED things would changed, but they never did.

Why didn't you try to sucker punch him and beat him with your bare hands instead?

I don't know, I snapped.

Would you recommend this method after encountering the consequences, both the positive and negative? Would you still do it again?

I wouldn't do it again - no way no how. But I don't regret doing it.

No I don't recommend stabbing someone in school though, I'm lucky he didn't die. I was I think a milometer away from his jugular vein

What facial expression did he make when you stabbed him?

Don't remember during the stabbing, but after.. he was in tears and SHOCK that it happened. He probably thought I was going to keep butchering him, but I stopped and just started screaming at him.

I calmly handed the knife to a teacher, and waited to be arrested.

Hey..that's seriously rough, but thanks for doing this AMA.. I'm just wondering, since you've experienced this, what advice would you give to kids out there that are dealing with the same thing? Would you urge them to stay away from retaliation on the level you did?

Would you urge them to stay away from retaliation on the level you did?

Well yes

But it's hard to give advise on such a sensitive topic. I don't want to just give generic advise like "Buckle up, Son, It'll get better" I honestly don't know - I DEFIANTLY don't feel like my way was the proper way to deal with this though.

Since this has happened has your school taken any steps towards figuring out how to handle bullies to avoid similar situation?

I'm sure bullying still happens, but I have no idea honestly. I've been out of that hell hole since 2009.

Did your parents ever have options for other schooling given to them?

not that I know of

Are you worried about retaliation in the future? If I was a raging bully, like this fellow, and I was stabbed I might come after that particular person. I hope he doesn't and I feel sorry you had to endure all he put you through. But are you ever like...worried he might come back after you for revenge?

It's been a really long time, so no i don't believe he will. But if he brings his stupidity on my families property attempting to hurt my animals, family or my self, I'd have no problems with calling the police, or taking things into my own hands.

After all of this, have you considered getting involved in the anti-bullying campaign at all if you are able?

I haven't considered it, but given the opportunity by someone if presented properly, I'd maybe consider it. I unfortunately don't have a car.