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zeekip2 karma

I agree. I wish you the best, I hope you can make something of these elections!

The best solution would be ie. not being any need for a pirate party. No offense, but the world would be a better place if your party would serve no service, since that means all parties have adopted most of the pirateparty's ideas into their party program, ideas that seems so rational and logic (atleast when looking at the IT and privacy parts).

Good luck!

zeekip2 karma

I understand, but this doesnt seem much like a difference but more like oposite, contradicting differences.

So you dont trust the EU with data, how do you trust them with tanks.

Which is a pretty good question imo.

He answer's with

We trust the Netherlands even less than the EU. A "own" defense has long deceased.

So they dont trust the EU, but also not their own country?

I mean I understand you can't all have agreeing members, or agreeing parties across europe. But this man seems to be on the opposite of the spectrum when compared to the other pirateparties.

we represent what our members in the UK want, and what our principles mean in the UK context.

Sorry to go off-topic then

zeekip2 karma

I did the official euro parliament test to see the stances of most parties and that is what they told me. But that was from the dutch party, so glad to hear the swedish party doesnt agree. Pretty sloppy though that the same party can have contradicting stances on matters.

Sounds contrary to the very core of the pirate philosophy.

Yeha thats what I thought too, if I have time I might make a screenshot and translate.

https://twitter.com/ElinevdVorm/status/458588368352587777

This Janmaarten Batstra which is an EU parliament canditate and dutch pirateparty member says:

@ElinevdVorm @Piratenpartij maar bijv. 1 leger=lagere kosten, dus meer geld voor zorg, privacy, etc. Nu rijdt EU met tig merken tanks...

Which rougly translates as :

@ElinevdVorm @Piratenpartij eg only one army = lower costs, so more money for health care, privacy, etc. Now EU drives in tanks of many brands ...

Pretty weird...

If you put the entire conversation trough a translator (for the non-dutch speaking here) You see this guy has a pretty weird opinion...

zeekip1 karma

Why would you want a European central army?

Why would you even want a central EU governing body that tries to force laws that obviously cant work for all the different cultures at the same time.