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The lyrics of Wood and Wire... (another incredible song!) It's clearly about an innocent man on death row, showing the same hope and peace as the apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 4. Was there a specific person or account that inspired this song? "Fourteen years" is pretty specific. Is it a present-day representation of what Paul might sing about his own martyrdom?

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I've heard some people infer that certain lyrics in your new songs allude to the Mars Hill leadership and break-up on a deeper level. For example,

I always thought that we were led by men with sober minds and sympathetic hearts

or the idea of Whistleblower, that when someone prefers to keep dishonest or hypocritical things hidden, there should always be a whistleblower there to tell the truth. Do you think there's a Mars Hill layer of meaning in some of these, or are you only focused on politics?

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Salt and Shadow - another incredible song. (I get a Beatles vibe from the double-tracked vocals and it hits such a deep melancholy heart string.) You all have mentioned it fleshes out the idea of the "TBEITBN" quote by Seneca, especially as it pertains to electronic devices and social media. What does do the terms "salt and shadow" symbolize or allude to specifically? Shadow could allude to someone whose shape is there but isn't present. Is that accurate? What about salt?

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I heard you casually mention that in the recent Noise Creators podcast and wondered if I'd just missed the details. I'm stoked they let you do it too. Yet another reason I think all four of you guys are really gifted - thanks for always pushing those boundaries.

What's the symbolism of the rose and the blood in the first verse of Hurricane (incredible song, btw!)? Is it more about the calm before the storm, as in how easy it is to shrug off something little like a cut before getting slammed by a storm? Or is there something more to the symbolism of blood being a "truer" red?