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tinkerbeth528 karma

You used the term "afk" in your description, what's your favorite piece of internet speak so far? What terms do you find the most strange or confusing?

tinkerbeth19 karma

well after enthusiastic consent had been established

This shows a misunderstanding of enthusiastic consent. The whole point of enthusiastic consent is that it is proactive and ongoing. You don't "establish" enthusiastic consent, you continually confirm it throughout the encounter.

tinkerbeth12 karma

I'd like to take a minute to thank you for facing this head on and trying to use it as a constructive learning experience for all involved. That's mature and I respect it immensely.

What lead you to this conclusion? If I recall correctly, your initial response was to defend your guide as is. What caused you to rethink?

tinkerbeth9 karma

I think some of the disconnect is that what you're calling dating advice does read as manipulation. It may not be intended that way, but hey, that's what good communication is for right?

Particularly in a sexual context, openness, honesty, and communication are key. I've been reading through some of the Q&A here and something I keep seeing come up is that you shouldn't have to say "please, pretty please put your hand on my penis" when you've been fooling around with the girl already. But here's the thing; consent can never be implied. It has to honestly be given. Enthusiastic consent doesn't mean formally ask before escalation, but it does mean getting verbal consent through asking questions like "do you like what I'm doing?"

I guess what I'm getting at is that there are totally sexy, mood elevating ways to get proactively get consent but unfortunately I generally only hear about it from a female perspective. I would LOVE to see a guide for men that explores the idea of enthusiastic consent thoroughly.

tinkerbeth3 karma

Fair enough but would you mind replying to the point about implied consent vs. actual consent?