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sixspeedtibby64 karma

the drinks they pass around at Mohegan are so god-awful and watered down, there's no way you can get drunk enough to be disorderly.

source: i live in CT and go to mohegan.

also, come join us in /r/connecticut if ur from the region!

sixspeedtibby31 karma

so an unintended consequence of the system is that it forces often young people to choose between public assistance and college?

how does this end up this way? were the rules designed to eliminate some other problem or something?

sixspeedtibby26 karma

the argument against the "need" argument seemed to miss the point.

college is expensive, but tuition is only part of it. There's books, supplies, in a lot of cases a vehicle prerequisite that brings a whole bunch of cost, etc.

Its not even a realistic assumption to say that the "totally free market" would lend poverty-stricken West Virginia farmhand Bobby-Joe the money to buy food and put gas in his pickup to attend community college for his associates in ag-tech.

From someone who had $0 for school upon enrolling, the fact that student loans exist to pay the tuition doesn't mean that you get to free up money you would have spent saving up for school to pay for your car and food and books.

for a lot of people (myself included) if it weren't for student loans, college wouldn't have been an option. i just wouldn't have gone.

sixspeedtibby4 karma

The 4 of you guys will be drinking Ensures through straws by the time that happens....

sixspeedtibby4 karma

What if "per-student federal spending" is an unusable and unhelpful metric to use in talking about this program's stated goals?

It's a really good layperson talking point, and seeing as it has a lot of traction, I'll leave the layperson response to your response here.

https://youtu.be/z07UT4mCESQ (skip to 1:40)