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It's irrelevant.

No, it isn't. What a stupid thing to say.

It's not their responsibility to resettle people, at all. I honestly don't understand how you could think it is.

The standard practice in these situations and historical precedents dictate that resettlement is the only feasible option. This is not to say that some huge injustice has taken place and they just have to accept it, they were a part of a failed war of aggression -- in life and in the international arena, you don't get to call the shots in that position.

What you're saying is akin to me kicking you out of your house and blaming your neighbours for not taking you in.

No, it isn't because houses are houses, not nation states. Since we're doing stupid comparisons, it's more like this:

Israel and Palestinians argue over a plot of land. Israel agrees to split the land but Palestinians, spurred on and backed by their family who live on the same street, reject the offer to share and instead try to attack Israel and drive them out of their house and keep the land for themselves.

Israel beats them off and the Palestinians go scurrying off to their families land which has plenty of room for them to live on but their families tell the Palestinians: "you must stay in the basement, you are not allowed to work, come upstairs or do pretty much anything we're allowed to do".

All this whilst Palestine's family says to the world "oh won't somebody end the poor Palestine's suffering? Look at what the evil Israeli's did to them!" and Palestine goes "Yeah, they took our land, they kicked us out!".

That's a stupid, overly simplistic comparison too but I suspect that's the extent of which your knowledge about the conflict extends.

Is it any wonder why you get called a self hating Jew? This post looks identical to most posts from the type of "American Jew" who has a Jewish relative and suddenly sees themselves as an expert on Israel. It usually goes like this... "as a Jew... <insert statement demonstrating shitty understanding of situation here>".

Honestly, I think one thing could move us toward a resolution quicker than anything: 1) the United States decides to wield its enormous influence and compel Israel to abandon its failed geo-political policies. A simple, No more $3 billion a year for you until you freeze settlements and end the occupation

Right, so you think this is the key to moving forward... Doing exactly what the PA and Palestinians have been trying to do for years, force concessions out of Israel without giving anything in return.

You think this is what will work as opposed to eliminating the culture of rejecting normalization, hatred, death and terror that runs rife through the Palestinian national psyche -- something which filters through every echelon of their society, old and young from terror summer camps to children's TV shows calling for the deaths of Israelis -- and don't give me any retarded shit about Israeli antics causing this culture, this culture predates any occupation, checkpoint or blockade -- even the modern state of Israel itself. The occupation etc are a direct consequence of the Palestinian/Arab violence, they are not the cause of it.

You demonstrate a pitiful lack of understanding of the situation and the driving factors behind Palestinian and indeed the wider Arab world's actions if even one iota of you genuinely believes that if Israel just up and left the West Bank and promised not to expand on any settlements, everything would be okay. I don't even know where to begin in debunking that idiotic notion, it's face palm worthy.

2) Arab states do similarly on their end, offering Palestinians with large economic incentives for reconciliation and political resolution with Israel.

Typical. The US/Israel = root of all evil, must stop being evil. Palestinians = not responsible for their own actions, forced to do everything they do out of desperation, everybody must feel sorry for them.

Can't you see the problem here? You demand that Israel be called a naughty boy and have money taken from it and in return, you propose that Palestinians be given money.

Why not treat them how you want Israel to be treated? Why not propose that US & European aid (because the Arab states often promise them money but never follow through with it) be withheld until the Palestinians abandon the "struggle" (a euphemism for their military/economic/diplomatic war) against Israel -- no, no! Poor Palestinians, you say "ok we accept Israel" and we'll lavish you with more money than we already give you. Are you aware that Palestinians receive more international aid per head than any other country, yes, including all of those African nations ravaged by poverty etc -- let's give them more. Let's give them more money to spend on paying salaries to convicted terrorists!

It does not appear that Israel is capable of doing this on its own.

What was I saying about you viewing Israel as the root of all evil and absolving Palestinians of responsibility. You think Israel isn't capable of this? Right, okay, because it's not like the Palestinians have been offered relatively great deals (despite being the losing aggressor which entitles them to fuck all) from the historical partition plans to 94%+ of the West Bank etc -- it is they who are not capable of doing it on their own. Their leadership is weak and corrupt and their whole culture, national identity suddenly becomes irrelevant because their identity was born purely to oppose Israel.

And if that ends up being the resolution, it will either be a fully democratic, single state or full-fledged apartheid.

I was waiting for you to bring up apartheid. I can't even be bothered, I've lost the will at this point. You are disconnected from reality.

Oh and as you know, it was a Hamas bombing that almost killed your wife. Question, based on the known ideology of Hamas, do you believe that they blew up the cafeteria because a) Israeli presence in the West Bank or b) as stated, they define the very existence of Israel as an occupation of Palestinian land and as such, see armed struggle (terrorism) as the only means for liberating the land?

What you want to do is severely compromise Israel's security, you want them to make grand gestures in good faith and forgive the pun, hope it doesn't blow up in their face. Oh wait, they did that when they disengaged from Gaza and look where that got them.

Are you aware that whilst your wife's friends were having their body parts picked up off of the floor, thousands were celebrating in Gaza? If your wife had have actually died, if for example, your wife was a victim of the Mercaz HaRav massacre, would you still seek "reconciliation", would you try to understand why these lunatics killed your wife?

To answer your third question, yes they help you build muscle. Are they an absolute requirement? No, you can get all the nutrients you need from food and you can get relevant supplements seperately but doing so is expensive and time consuming which is why protein shakes are great. You get a relatively large amount of protein per serving, liquid calories so easier/better absorbed iirc, very easy to prepare and consume and they often contain lots of other useful ingredients.