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paladinmahdi50 karma

I'm a Palestinian from Nablus, I read your answers, you seem a reasonable guy, I have few questions.

What do you think about the future of the West bank with the building of the settlements and demolishing homes in Eastern Jerusalem, I mean the Palestinian cities and villages future, do you think Israel will try to kick them out too in the future by this slow expansion or just include them in one state ?, I'm pretty sure Israel will never agree on a two state solution, that's why I'm asking.

In the second Intifada I saw alot of IDF soldiers, and alot of wrong shit happened, so you see we here don't like IDF soldiers or settlers, but the people in Israel are mostly fine, my father still have Israelis friends knew them before 2000, my question how Israelis see Palestinian ? Do you see them as equal human begin , or just nuanced Arabs who just happened to live beside you?

paladinmahdi32 karma

I'm actually impressed, you are definitely a good guy, thanks for your answers. The problem they will never clear them, that's why I'm asking about the future. And good to know that they see them this way. The problem here, our people rarely meet, so most people here dislike Israelis, because they only see your government actions and the IDF military rule in the west bank or the settlers.

I think the best solution is a one state, that's my opinion, and not a military Jewish state, but a democratic state like USA or Canada or something like this, cause settlers ain't leaving, and a chance for the 1947 people who got kicked out could come back, who knows maybe after 10 or 20 years, the sad thing war and fighting will never end the way things are.

paladinmahdi1 karma

Thanks, I will try to answer. Scenario a: If Israel laid down it's weapon and warfare, I didn't understand 100% what you mean, so I will try to answer another 3 scenarios here.

If Israel treated the Palestinians without using force and gave them their state, and the right to the return of the exiled, I'm pretty sure they will become a trade neighbors and Palestinians and Israeli will both prosper, But Israel is afraid of letting the Palestinian prosper, fearing that they may rise one day and occupy Israel in the far future.

Another scenario, If Israel made one state solution, Muslims will be a majority, and Israel will lose it's Jewish identity in the future.

Last scenario, If Israel didn't have any weapons now, Hamas will probably invade Israel and liberate it, but I don't think they will kill civilians, if they are really Muslims not like the crazy ISIS but the hatred in the Palestinians is 67 years old so shit may happens.

Part b Scenario, If Hamas laid down their weapons, Israel will continue building the settlements and using force, take prisoners, kill Palestinians, and Gaza strip will be occupied or left alone and maybe this will be Palestine in the future. The west bank will become part of Israel, and the 2.2 million Palestinian who lives there will probably be forced to leave or integrated with Israel, another scenario,they will let small buffer zones (lands) for the Palestinians cities with no chance to grow. Homes are getting demolished everyday for new Israeli homes, so I'm pretty sure Israel will never let go of the West bank considering it's history for them 2000 years ago.

paladinmahdi1 karma

Yes, maybe the rockets are stupid you see, and only worse the situation. But you need to understand how humans act, If you oppress someone and deny his rights he will resist, it's how the world reacts. if you push something there will be a resistance and a reaction, this guy zav8 is good and we need more like him.

You see it's not Hamas the problem, I don't support them per say, but as a Palestinian they are fighting for my rights, Gaza situation was bad before Hamas, 67 years of occupation and oppression lead to the creation of Hamas, First it was the PLO and Yaser Arafat they were considered terrorist, imagine if you raise a Palestinian flag you will get arrested in 1980, PLO kept fighting until the world acknowledged them, First by rock then by Suicide bombs ( which I condemn and consider it immoral and wrong ) then rockets and finally by tunnels. who knows what in the future, even if Hamas is gone, someone alot extreme will replace them, so the solution is not more oppression as you can see.

And the tunnels, if you followed this war, you will see that Hamas militants only attacked military outposts and soldiers using the tunnels, they could have attacked civilians but they didn't, I'm not defending anything here, but stating facts, and all Palestinians don't consider them a terrorist group.

Finally the negotiating table is a joke, Israel is stalling so they could build more settlements to make a two state solution a dream. Abbas PLO leader is considered weak and a joke by Israeli experts and Palestinians.

We all want peace, and yes the situation is frustrating and this horror will be repeated over and over....