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newdefinition195 karma

We just need:

  1. An unprecedented historical upset to elect a referendum president
  2. 50 more referendum representatives to get elected, which would essentially amount to a new 3rd party in American politics and the largest change in control of the house in over 100 years.

Honest question - can anyone think of a less likely pair of events to happen? In terms of electoral math, both of these are conservatively a 1 in a 100 year events.

newdefinition116 karma

It rallies the base. It makes us angry. It will turn out the vote. It could well mean he wins.

I think that this argument could be applied to literally every winning candidate of the last 100 years. Is your argument essentially "the way we've been doing democracy is incapable of fixing any problems"??

No one has done anything good in my lifetime?

newdefinition54 karma

I became convinced that Sanders has been seduced by the consultants

I find this incredibly hard to swallow. Sanders has been fighting for the same issues in every campaign he's ever run, and has been fighting for simple human equality basically his entire adult life. He has a public record of honesty and consistency that's almost incomparable in modern politics.

And because he doesn't agree with you on how to run the campaign, you try to smear him with this kind of low, petty, attack?

I've been a huge fan of yours for years, and have supported every single idea you've had to try and fix campaign finance. But I can't support this. It reeks of pettiness and desperation and just hurt feelings, and it isn't the kind of bold vision that we need.

You haven't even announced your candidacy yet and already you're already stooping to things like this.

newdefinition4 karma

I'd like to hear your opinions on some past attempts at getting this issue more attention on the nation stage:

  1. Buddy Roemer's campaign
  2. Mayday PAC
  3. Fix Congress first

What lessons have been learned that will help make Lessig 2016 more successful?

newdefinition3 karma

Yeah, each, and that's a conservative estimate. It's much easier to guess what the chances of unseating 50 representatives is, since things like that have happened a couple times in the country's history.

Guessing what the chances of a "referendum president" getting elected is harder, but 1 in 100 years seems like a generous estimate?

Of course, the two wouldn't likely be completely independent, so if one happened, the chances of the other happening are probably higher. Maybe not 1 in 10,000 year, but certainly not very good.