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helloelan83 karma
Its tragic what is happening and you deserve your own state. But if you research you will find the Arab world has also treated Palestinians like the bastard Arab population, if you will, forever. Kind of like how Jews were always treated. Amazing that both don't focus on the similarities and not the differences.
I've always thought this myself.
As a Jew and a Zionist, a Palestinian state alongside Israel is as tantamount to Zionism as Israel itself.
helloelan41 karma
Because you have political factions like Likud taking advantage of the situation by exploiting Palestinians and using the reflexive, moderate-to-liberal American Jewish voice to whitewash the occupation. You have to know that the biggest obstructions to peace currently is the unholy union of status quo between Hamas and Likud.
Everything you know about the situation is a manipulative lie, on both sides. There should be no sides here.
helloelan33 karma
I think the key is to remain cold and calculated when volunteering oneself to read editorials and opinion pieces and instead receive your news from a massive aggregate of sources, along with history courses and solid academic work.
The TRUTH is that the media only serves to advance Palestinian interests, because frankly the Israelis are massively more powerful a force; a standing army defending a nation from terrorists. The media is trying to make Jews look bad just because of their successes, wanting to bring "balance" to a conflict undeserving of it. The TRUTH is that the media only serves to advance Israeli interests, because AIPAC is a driving force in America who sides with Israel due to the military-industrial complex and corporatism. Palestinans are freedom fighters resisting the occupational, colonialist entity.
It's confusing and fucking miserable, that paragraph. And yet that's what we've got to deal with.
I read plenty of editorials, caustic and counterproductive as they can be, but it gives insight into the thinking of people on both sides. Electronic Intifada is a bemusement in the same way as Arutz Sheva.
The entire situation, from our perspective as epistemology-driven outliers, starts becoming rather recursive. The people who do what I've listed, who do not side with either propaganda-driven, rhetorical faction generally find themselves so torn between the complexity of the conflict that they are even less likely to declare allegiances and instead work pragmatically to find a solution that fits the needs of both sides, which are ultimately more intertwined to the same fate than you'd ever know.
Hopefully it's clear that this isn't an easy task or we'd have peace by now. The truth is somewhere in the middle, the furthest point between the manipulations, motivations, aspirations and rhetoric of both sides. It's a tragically boring place to be, but if you're there you begin to wonder why the conflict receives so much more attention than every other nationalist struggle in the world-- a whole new can of worms.
helloelan98 karma
For the record, Bishara is a Christian Palestinian.
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