gwaccount8835 karma2020-05-15 13:56:18 UTC
Why do you think, that not thinking is important? Why is meditating any better than taking a nap? At least when we dream we get a little movie to help us unpack what's going on in our minds.
Thinking about breathing just makes me painfully aware I need oxygen to survive.
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gwaccount886 karma2020-05-15 15:33:46 UTC
I think I almost entirely agree with your second statement/paragraph. After that, I'm not so concerned with.
Your first statement however, I fundamentally disagree with. If life was all about feeling good and having fun, we would be doing cocaine and drinking alcohol all day every day until we died of heart failure. Life is not about fun, it's about working hard to bettering ourselves, in order to better the community, in order to better the future. That's it. That's evolution.
gwaccount883 karma2020-05-15 16:29:51 UTC
Thank you for the honest and informed reply. I feel like if me and you had a few beers together we would either discover the meaning, or agree to discuss it next weekend.
Of course everything in life is fun, because you were brought online in a time where (and I'm reaching here, but I bet I'm right) you are not starving, have ample shelter, and aren't concerned about predators devouring you or your child at night.
What I think I am trying to say is that, the reason both you and I, have the luxury to even discuss these philosophical ideas, over a medium of 1's and 0's carried by light, and portrayed as text, is because men tried hard, when it was not fun, when they knew it would not be fun.
How far back do you want to take that sacrafice? Men giving their lives for freedom?
Life is not an egosentric pleasure, it's an obiligation. Do the best you can for the future. You as an individual are irrelevant.
gwaccount882 karma2020-05-15 16:08:19 UTC
See this is where we can concisely disagree.
*edit sorry, I mean just on dreams*
98% of my dreams are lucid dreams. Occassionally I wil have a nightmare, but then I realize I am in a nightmare, and I wake myself up. Most of the time, I know exactly what I'm doing and creae a world for myself to exist in.
Every other time, I explore my past ex's, my long gone friends etc. The only thing that is ever weird in my dreams, is that in my dream my mother is alive, but then I wake up and know she is dead. That is the one thing I haven't fully come to terms with I think.
gwaccount882 karma2020-05-15 18:53:42 UTC
Haha I hear you! There really is no trick to it, except, realizing you are dreaming and not waking up. That is the hardest part. So many times I will be deeply walking in a dreamscape, and I know I am in a dream landscape, but if something happens that makes my heart race too much the dream ends. You can't control that.
What I did, even from a young kid because of my hippie mom, was try hard to remember what I just experienced in my dream, and write it down. So what I think that did was make my dreams "real". You honestly have to think about it, and say "what is happening right now is ridiculous, am I dreaming?" and you confrim "Yes" but without waking up-
and then you've entered the lucid dreaming world. From there, it's all your imagination my friend.
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