coleman57

You're being too modest: the Mothership pre-dated The Wall by at least 3 years. I think it probably even pre-dated the giant pig from Animals.

I agree with everything you said except your hinting about "specific people". I'm sure out of the ~2k people who died at the WTC, there must have been a few who were specifically engaged in enterprises that exploited the people of the middle-east. Maybe some who specifically targeted political contributions to ensure continued US de-facto occupation.

But even at the Pentagon (let alone the passengers on the planes), those who died largely had no more to do with US military and industrial policy than voting and paying taxes. Are those policies wrong? I happen to agree with you that they are. But I also vote and pay taxes, and I don't believe I deserve to die because my country has military bases on the same peninsula as some religious shrine. Do you vote and pay taxes? Do you think you deserve to die?

Like you, I fervently wish we (the American people) could talk about this stuff honestly, and as a result we would dismantle our genocidal military empire. But on the specific question of the 4 flying bombs on 9/11/01, I see no evidence they were targeted with any more precision than an average terrorist attack. On occasion a terrorist attack kills someone with some power, but generally not: their goal is to terrorize a population and provoke an overreaction. Obviously 9/11/01 succeeded. But it didn't take out some secret star chamber, and hinting that it did is misdirection and mystification.

Obviously there's all kinds of secret negotiations between the US and Saudi governments and power elites. But as to Bin Laden's (extended) family: what was the US gonna do? Hold them hostage? Yes, it smells bad that they were hustled back to SA, but that doesn't mean they were personally involved in the attack. Out of 100s of members of his extended family, I have no idea what number support him. If you have access to any evidence, share it. There is plenty of evidence of atrocious behavior by the Saudi government and power elite, just like our own. But that doesn't mean they were behind 9/11. Let's call them on what we already have proof of rather than jumping to the conclusion that SA were friends rather than enemies of Al Qaeda. Seems to me most likely they were enemies, but that doesn't mean they're not both horrible.

There's plenty of evidence laying right out in the open: the millions of innocent people killed by the US and SA governments and by terrorists. We don't have to dig up a whole lot more super-secrets to know what needs to happen, especially when it comes to our own policies. Which is most of what you said, so we're mainly in agreement.

The IRS doesn't write the tax code, it tries to execute and enforce it. An over-complicated tax code is no more in the interest of the IRS than an over-complicated cockpit to a pilot.

No, it talks about this 1950 Gregory Peck film. Sam Peckinpah didn't make his first film for another decade.

No respect, I tell ya!