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bunker_man120 karma

That's the thing. a lot of people insist that something can't be controlling if it's not hierarchical. But that's not true at all. And this is a perfect example of that. When there is a collective community that makes decisions that you are bound by, and the decisions have far-reaching consequences, and who you have to face all of when you want anything different it can easily be fairly overpowering.

bunker_man49 karma

There's much more evidence though, since the abortion theory is a trend that didn't follow in every country, whereas lead seems to have much more strongly.

bunker_man15 karma

You also left out a few issues. Many of them don't know the language, so they feel like they would literally be powerless trying to get back home in a country they don't know, where they have no clue what direction their home even is from there, with no ability to talk to locals, and no knowledge of who they can trust. Under those conditions, they fear that there is a very real possibility that if they try to run away they might end up dead not even because of the traffickers, but just getting lost and having no way to know what to do. For all they know if they run into the forest there's no other places to go in that direction for hundreds of miles.

There's also the fact that by the time they learn the language they will almost certainly already have a kid. So what now running away is the added danger of the fact that it would be even harder to with the kid, and they would feel guilty about running away without them.

A third issue is the fact that based on their situation, they might suspect that even if they escaped they couldn't go back to their original life. They would forever irrevocably be seen as different even in their own community, and there is a good chance that there would be a lot of victim-blaming. And since they aren't virgins they would be seen differently too. And even if it wasn't super likely they would be caught again, they would be living in fear that they could be. So it can be super demoralizing to be concerned that it would not only be difficult to try to escape, but that if you succeeded you have to be concerned that the rewards wouldn't be very large. Especially if you originally lived in a poor area that wasn't that great in the first place.

bunker_man12 karma

The short: when you look at studies that properly control for genetics, parenting has close to cero influence on personality traits or outcomes.

Yeah. Bizarre claims like this are why stephen pinker isn't taken very seriously.

bunker_man11 karma

Yeah. This comes off like they want it to sound utopian, but in practice it doesn't really sound that great. There are some benefits I suppose, but definitely not some type of idyllic life.