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abusepotential38 karma
Part of what attracted me to Hold'em is the idea that it might be unsolvable: there's surely an optimal way to play, that will pay out over a very large number of hands, but so much of the game is based on human psychology which can be wildly variable.
Do you anticipate that AI's can become unbeatable at this game over a certain number of hands? (Are we there already?)
Is there a psychological component to the game that cannot be solved by an AI? (Where a human player, on a shorter run, might do better against an erratic or seemingly illogical opponent?)
abusepotential24 karma
I believe AlphaGo just recently beat the best-ranking human players, and it's generally regarded as having surpassed human capability for play at this point.
I'm sure, like how Chess has more potential games than there are atoms in the universe, solving Go is a supremely complex mathematical / game-theory problem. But these are kind of apples and oranges a little bit. Go and Chess and Connect-Four and Checkers and Tic Tac Toe (the latter three are of course solved) are "perfect information" games where all information about past and future moves are available to both players. In the case of Go and Chess there are so impossibly many moves to consider that even a supercomputer needs to play by "feeling" a little bit and can't just crunch the numbers. But the potential moves are finite and can be seen by both players -- so these games will be "perfectly" solved eventually.
What attracts me to "imperfect information" games like Hold'em is the psychology involved: they cannot truly ever be "perfectly solved". Solving them would necessarily need to mean something different -- not just being able to see the moves and probabilities, but being able to adapt to potentially illogical strategies as part of optimal gameplay.
I'm not even sure I understand what goes into solving an imperfect information game, or at what point one considers them to be solved.
Also though I am a dummy -- so don't listen to me.
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Was it a generally bacchanalian atmosphere like most of us I think are imagining?
Just in terms of partying, sex.
Did you have to be 21 to go? Probably not, though I imagine most of the stops were in countries with lower drinking ages, so was alcohol a big part of the experience for most people?
abusepotential145 karma
I don’t know what this guy is talking about. In America we usually think of Russian and Eastern European women as being very beautiful.
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