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WildMeringue1434 karma

(OK, seems reddit was banned since 8/12)

No, reddit is not banned and I have no additional access privilege (this is fact, please keep reading, I'm not denying the censorship). Yet China's Internet is a walled garden (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_platform) and most trending social network apps are banned but reddit and quora are really exceptions (I don't know why, really). China's "domestic internet" is like the mixture of "1984" and "Brave New World", it's the most centralized ecosystem over the internet world, it is not because of the government's censorship but business environment. People use proprietary apps for everything and many people even don't know what is the url/domain and they have no conception to the open web or e-mail. Check this out if you want to know the view from Chinese technology enthusiasts: https://medium.com/@liruyi/bye-bye-wechat-688148f53dfd.

("Walled garden" is NOT flatter, it's a commonly used expression in tech news and blog post, read Wikipedia above.)

About censorship:

China's Media censorship is infamous all around the world and that's quite a complicated question to answer. Most people realized what happened and they know the censorship exist (there are tons of memes about that), but most people has accustomed to live under this kind of censorship and don't think deeper. Credibility of government has been damaged but because of some kind of Inertial thinking (or Cognitive inertia), most people support the current government with no brain and they think the censorship is necessary in some extent to "keep the society stable", sigh.

WildMeringue1292 karma

I was taught but in a censored way (when I'm in high school), most people know but avoid talking about that (about the tank man, Zhao, and so on).

The view of this event is actually disputed in China. Almost all people sympathize the victims but many people support government's "solution" due to pragmatism (they think it's the only solution to keep the stability of the country). Personally my view is: this the stain of the party and Deng, that's it ("that's it" doesn't mean I'm not feeling bad about this, it's more like I can't find a proper expression due to my poor English).

This event is a devastating strike to Chinese humanities and art. Discussions on serious social issues were very popular among the intellectual class in the 1980s (you may not believe, some serious literature and philosophy tome like Kant were the best-selling books among the young people on that time). After 1989, all freshmen in university have to attend a short-term military training (more a kind of obedience training) and their activities in campus are under surveillance.

WildMeringue819 karma

Most people in China "can afford" to travel abroad but language barrier and visa is the main obstruction.

China's Media censorship is infamous all around the world and that's quite a complicated question to answer. Most people realized what happened and they know the censorship exist (there are tons of memes about that), but most people has accustomed to live under this kind of censorship and don't think deeper. Credibility of government has been damaged but because of some kind of inertial thinking, most people support the current government with no brain and they think the censorship is necessary in some extent to "keep the society stable", sigh.

WildMeringue561 karma

I don't think economy aspect of Maoism and Leninism are right, that's it. The hilarious thing is… The ultra left economic policy to China is just like constitution fundamentalism to the United States.

A book I recommend (Rise of the Red Engineers: The Cultural Revolution and the Origins of China's New Class): https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=16889

WildMeringue536 karma

I'm more into Social democracy just like liberal parties in Europe and North America.

Political spectrum of Chinese people are a bit complicated, some "radical left/right option" in "western" countries are considered to be undisputed choice in China, for instance, almost all Chinese people support abortion based on individual's free will and "women should get equal pay for equal work" is almost a common sense in China, yet lots of Chinese people admire social darwinism and chauvinism… It's strange, right? Pragmatism and pre-80s Leninism legacies affect today's China a lot.