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Webonics128 karma

They've heard from us a number of times at this point. It's fairly apparent they don't care what we think. They're going to pass this bill eventually. They're just waiting until enough people aren't paying attention.

Clearly, as a nation, we cannot continue to babysit congress indefinitely on every issue. Your argument is that, that's what we must do to be represented? Then we should do away with congress. It serves nopurpose.

They don't represent us. They just want people to think they do.

Webonics92 karma

That was a really enjoyable window into your life.

Webonics79 karma

Yes, while I agree with this sentiment, America fosters a different attitude for different reasons.

Theft, corruption, and waste are so absolutely ubiquitous and public here that it's difficult not to have an anti-tax attitude.

We'll keep making tanks that sit and rust never used so a representatives district doesn't lose jobs.

We hand sweetheart contracts to firms like Halliburton to build giant buildings in Afghanistan everyone said we didn't need, which now sit empty and unused.

We have an insanely huge military budget.

That excludes the cost of black budgets for covert or classified military expense where we are literally not allowed to know how much more is being spent than our already oversized military budget.

Our rural police forces are being equipped with military gear coming back from war. We paid for it the first time. Then the tax burden shifted to our local or state municipalities for upkeep on shit that our police shouldn't have.

We've leveraged our future economy and future tax payers under very real debts to pay for spending today.

Our Pentagon recently misplaced 8 trillion dollars.

Untold sums of our tax dollars are used to spy on the rest of the globe, and ourselves, without any legitimate regard for laws relating to such. They're used to buy our governments way around the constitution, and then used to defend the government from our legal challenge or contest.

We have the largest prison population on the planet.

Of course we could go on and on...

There is a reluctance and innate aversion to any further tax spending or increases in some of our population because every where we look we see rampant theft, horrid inefficiency, out right ineptitude, and abject waste.

Social spending is an easy target, because you don't really have to know anything about the issues. Your money is being taken, and given to someone else, just like always, but now it's not some nebulous void of policy spending, it's going straight to "those freeloaders" "the lazy" "the takers", so it provides an easy outlet for the publics feelings in general.

While I support a universal single payer, I can understand pretty well why some people don't want our government to redistribute wealth.

In many cases, our tax dollars aren't really providing the type of returns and effectiveness that those of us who earned those dollars find acceptable. You get tired of watching your government spend 2x 3x 4x per capita what other nations spend on comparable programs, while delivering a result that is not just embarrassing, but actually kind of depressing. You get tired of watching 32 million here, 100 million there, get thrown away day after day to the rich and connected, or wasted.

The thought of additional taxes of any sort begins to feel like offering the guy who just mugged you at knifepoint a ride back to your place, because you've got way more stuff at home.

Before I can support the United States Government engaging in the management of any major new social services, I would have to see a vast change in the day to day operation and interest of the government.

I truly and honestly don't believe the vast majority of our government has the well being of the citizens at heart. It now operates for the sake of its own interest, with its own motivations, and quite purposely only represents certain small groups, and hardly makes any pretense about that fact.

So even if I support an initiative generally, I cannot support handing that initiative over to our government, where 100 different representatives and "capitalist" are going to try to find 1000 different ways to steal from the people or the project in one way or another, and no one is ever going to actually sit down and say "Let's do our best to give the people the best that we can. Let's try to help our citizens live better lives." And no one (like the DOJ) is going to take any serious interest in stopping them from stealing, criminal activity, or ruining the government in general, because they're in the club, and it's real great, and they genuinely don't care about the people.

TL;DR: It's possible you don't mind because you're used to living under a government that displays an altogether different attitude towards the tax base and tax dollars, rather than, as you indicate, how deserving the recipient is.

Webonics64 karma

Yes, because that's the type of thing people ingesting Rhino horn for its medical properties will be quick to do.

Webonics24 karma

Your post elucidates the true state of affairs in this country today.

The Chairwoman does not represent the individual who asked that question, nor does she represent you. She provides fake answers to her fake representatives.

Ask yourself this question. Do you think Verizon gets such vague answers in its dealings with the FCC? Do you think false platitudes are the norm for the governments discussions with Comcast?

Who do you think your government really represents?

The Chairwoman has shown you pretty clearly who she believes her constituency is, and from where she derives her legitimacy.