TheBroWhoLifts

The second all sports stopped, I knew they had the real info and it was serious. People love their god damned sports, and sports make a lot of people a lot of money. They would never sacrifice all those profits over a hoax. That argument has gotten through to the handful of dumbasses I've had to talk to.

Earlier you said:

Economics need to get away from ... fancy formulas to confuse politicians.

But the reason rents have gone up has to do with the Correction, the effects of which seem to follow exactly what one of those fancy formulas would have predicted: less debt = more to spend = inflation. Can you clarify how you think economists have been confusing your politicians?

Ok I'll bite. What else is on the list other than a better way to burn twigs?

Sorry for the flippant tone, but these "one simple trick" concepts to solve colossal, intractable problems should always be met with skepticism. In this case, the skepticism should be aggressive because it's almost insulting.

There is zero evidence or indication that carbon emissions are on track to do anything other than continue their increase propelled by the momentum of continual industrial growth that capitalism requires. Short of drastic de-growth, which is not only not being talked about here or anywhere in any serious way because it is antithetical to the goals of industrial capital but also requires mass austerity compared to the modern comforts we're accustomed to, there are no systemic, effective proposals on the table.

No. The truth that no one wants to hear is that we would likely need to cut our population by drastic numbers and go back to living something like a 17th century agrarian lifestyle in order to even stand a chance at averting a catastrophe that is already probably unstoppable even if we did make those changes literally tomorrow. Not going to happen. This thread of full of hopium.

Before anyone jumps on the "quit being such a doomer!" bandwagon, one does not call the oncologist who tells a patient that they have late stage pancreatic cancer a "doomer." These are facts. There are no solutions. But good luck with your stove.

This is the best answer on this thread.

The average US family of four would need to not only stop emitting all carbon, but to actually draw down carbon from the atmosphere to stabilize the climate, that same family, if they had a magic machine that could draw literal carbon from the CO2 in the atmosphere, would need to produce a block of it weighing 980 lbs per week year in and year out for decades.

There is no solution to the climate collapse. The time to act has long passed. We're heading into the consequence phase now.

This is all rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.