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This prompt me thinking that who is the worst of the villain here? The army (e.g., benefactor of red light establishments) or the separatists?

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ALso, confirm. The bar's owner involved in certain cases is a close relative of an extremely powerful political figure (one of the top leaders leading the anti-Thaksin protests) whom is one of the major figures within the circle of the current rulers of Thailand (i.e., close ally of the junta).

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The coach is a local so he should has known about this (heck! there is a relatively large warning sign / https://f.ptcdn.info/324/058/000/paz91k2ejotPgu5xk1L-o.jpg). Also, despite the requirement to hire official guide, he broke the rule and went in on his own .... here is some relevant investigation

https://www.thairath.co.th/content/1317242

"ในอดีตเมื่อปี 2534 ได้มีนักท่องเที่ยวชาวฝรั่งเศส 2 คน มาเที่ยวถ้ำหลวง จนเวลาล่วงเลยไปนาน ไม่มีทีท่าว่าทั้งคู่จะออกมาจากถ้ำ จึงมีการแจ้งตำรวจและช่วยกันค้นหา กว่าจะพบใช้เวลาไป 3 วันในสภาพนักท่องเที่ยวอิดโรยเต็มที รวมถึงเมื่อ 2 ปีที่ผ่านมา ช่วงเดือนสิงหาคม ปี 2559 มีนักท่องเที่ยวจอดจักรยานทิ้งไว้หน้าถ้ำ เข้าไปนั่งสมาธิในถ้ำแห่งนี้ และหลงทาง กว่าจะพบตัวใช้เวลามากถึง 7 วัน"

translate and summarize ... in 1991, there was 2 French tourists that had gotten lost the cave for at least 3 days (found 3 days after police was notified) ... then just 2 years ago, another tourist got lost for more than 7 days ..... before this cases were mentioned in the article, it discusses why the cave has not been promoted as a tourist attraction due to these mysterious and horrifying incidents in the past, along with the known ghost stories.

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Is this whole thing is for real? ..... IMO, It's as if 'someone' is helping blowing this topic out of proportion, definitely help making Thai military's glorification campaign, and ... if there is any other purpose(s), i couldn't deduce that the US would be benefited from this anyhow? (Again, someone had linked the Thai cave incident's overblown media coverage to this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/06/18/immigrant-children-border-zero-tolerance-policy/709872002

Fell free to search as i had heard this from youtube.

BTW, the latest with the Thai Junta government .... it had arranged for an wildly-criticized US/Argentina (high-level) trip lasted around a month period of totally 40+ people, including all the cave victims along with 20+ officials and entertainments such as visits to the Universal Studio and others.

Refs (including Thai's):

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/thailand-s-12-cave-boys-set-to-tour-us-argentina-amid-movie-deal-speculation

https://pantip.com/topic/38120377

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government's response was around an major national crisis's level. Please investigate on any 'possibly' flaws.