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Everything else aside, I'd actually like to see more PR like this. I'm pretty sure monied interests of all sorts do try to game reddit, so it's actually worth a little bit 'o props when these companies engage users directly and in an intellectually honest manner.

Because there is some NSA fatigue: a sense that nothing that is revealed can surprise any longer.

This is akin to shock doctrine, and certain elements spend a lot of time and resources advancing this notion. Don't let anyone convince you that fatigue is setting in -- relatively speaking, this story has already had a much longer shelf life than most. I would even go so far as to say it will become a wedge issue for millenials, who are just starting to get their feet wet in politics. Keep reporting on this, and don't mistake gradual change for stagnation. From the perspective of a lowly internet commentator, I can tell you with confidence that a kind of paradigm shift has occurred. Even after previous revelations, most people bought into plausible deniability, and assumed average folks were too trite to be surveilled.

These days, it's actually possible to discuss these issues without being pegged as a looney toon, and that makes a huge difference. At the same time, I'm seeing this narrative that the internet is lacking in substance, or unimportant, and that internet discussion is doubly so. If you can find ways to dispel that notion it would be easier for average people to leverage the aforementioned shift.

edit: thanks for gold kind stranger(s) :D

I don't want to be clipped or rude, but comments like this one pop up in every. single. damn. thread about this thing. Since I keep having to address it, I've made a bit of a canned response --

You're mistaking fatalism for pragmatism. I'm not directing this at you, but doesn't anyone else think it's creepy how some of the top comments in threads like this are almost always "Nothing will ever change."? That's exactly what I'd say if I wanted to get people to gloss over this (or anything). As I said before, I don't think it's you, specifically, but all they would have to do is wait for someone to inevitably say this, then make sure it gets a few starter upvotes to gain momentum...

Voilà! Instant turnkey solution for dismissing dissent. Call me Captain Tinfoil if you want -- these days, apparently, metal hats are an obvious necessity.

Buffalowned.

That was kind of my point.