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NeckTieTiger31 karma

Lucas: I don't know what the alternatives would be, but I know some of the guys shouldn't be inside prison. Some people aren't hardened bad people. There is victims to be sure, but is throwing someone into prison to develop a drug habit helping anyone? Especially me, who was so young, I thought this is forever. It really messes with your head. You take someone into the big leagues, and it changes them. Prison doesn't rehabilitate, you are well fed and ill prepared.

Tony: there aren't programs to teach them, they aren't coming out better than they went in. If you don't have skills when you get out, you go right back in. You don't have credit, can't get a job. People fall back on their prison buddies and right back into crime. Stuff has to change because it is a cycle. Taxpayers should ask themselves what their taxes are going to into a prison? Steel bars, bored inmates, where is the tax benefit.

NeckTieTiger23 karma

Yes. If there are gangs on the street there is going to be gangs on the yard. People separate themselves into factions, and after decades it can evolve. We are friends, we call ourselves this and it grows.

NeckTieTiger22 karma

t two decades imprisoned?

Lucas: I was a special case, because I was mixed race. I could interact with the other race based groups, they didn't know what to do with me, who I was going to ride with. The first 30 days is in holding, bureaucracy asking questions about gangs and enemies. You only come out in chains to shower, the rest of the time is in the "fishtank". Everyone watches the guys in the fishtank. Once you get assigned a cell, you get your unit and pack up and move (with your stuff in a trashbag). Your cellmate should be the same race as you because race is so big in the system. I had some problems at first. The basic interactions were fuck (cooperate with whoever is demanding of you) fight (stand up for yourself) or hit the fence (run away or avoid the situation). The inmates judge you pretty quick, are you a rat? A molester? There are signs they look for in terms of your rap sheet. Adaptation is nuts. If you have never been in, you think of the movies, and honestly it is kind of like that. There is a lot of anxiety. You don't know what to expect, but once you learn the rules of the road, it gets easier.

NeckTieTiger13 karma

Lucas: There is no rehabilitation in prison. Tony: They call it programming, "jobs" in prison. Lucas: They pay you and take out room and board (I made $6 an hour, it was chump change afterwards). In the state prison you don't do a day for a day, you can work to get time off your sentence (12 days off per 30 if you play by the rules). Cooking, yard labor, stuff for people to do. Its better than doing nothing. There are no councilors (for non juveniles) you can get a GED. Tony: Surprised to learn there isn't counseling. They aren't teaching trades, there are a few college classes (101 classes) you aren't getting a degree without money to pay for it (classes aren't free).

NeckTieTiger-70 karma

Lucas: I never went to trial, I turned myself in for the crime. But there is a general respect/connection to everyone in the court system. Cops, lawyers, convicts, jurors, they understand what you are saying and you can say things to them you couldn't say to others.