Kiaser21

You, claiming to be a scientist, and your organization claiming to be profoundly pro-science, just used the phrase "not up for scientific debate". That is the single most anti-science statement that can be said and view a human can hold. NO honest or reputable (by MERIT) scientist would EVER spout such an anti-science and (since your views are political in nature and solutions are requiring political force) fascist statement.

You've proven yourself and your organization of being an absolute fraud by saying such a thing.

"The"?

Gunfire isn't a problem for the vast majority of areas in the US either.

Maybe don't listen to people claiming to use science when they say, "the debate is over" like Al Gore did, or this lady/organization who said, "it's not up for debate" in this very thread when she was questioned about their SELF ADMITTED subjective views on threats.

No real or self respecting scientist would EVER declare scientific debate is prohibited.

You've managed to wildly change your political stances with a years time, between Texas run and presidential run, showing you're either without principle or pandering/lying to just to get the best chance at votes so you can implement your true hidden policies. How do you reconcile this with claiming to be a good leader? Is it ends justify the means fallacy?

And for gun confiscation, you're smart enough to know it won't actually decrease gun violence nor especially total violence, so what is your true aim? And, if you're that deluded to claim it will, what's your answer to rights and liberties, that it can be overruled by any claimed (or in unicornland, actual) better result? Are our rights only there and "allowed" if its convenient and nothing at all stands in it's way? Where/does that stop? With what right? And by whose divine right makes that decision?

You're on the side of history and ideology that justifies atrocities, far more than any atrocities you claim to seek to prevent. Either you know that and are a complete nihilist, or have been fooled into thinking you and those you surround yourself with are much smarter than others that you can't even conceptualize basic fundamentals. I suggest you fix that. You (your ideology) may succeed eventually in its incrementalism attack on everything deemed good, virtuous, and in support of human prosperity, but it will still end in ruin for all leaving the ivory tower you THINK will protect your ilk not so great.

You advocate use of force, initiation of violence, fee, imprisonment, and death for not submitting to your demands (the degree of which punishment they get depends on how early they submit). You're following a near exact line of 1930s Germany political tactics to instate a fascist regime and culture, as well as using tactics today of certain ideological religions imposing on the state. Take a step outside your mind for a moment and look in without bias if you still have any semblance of that faculty left, and you'll see its absolute evil and tyranny you're pushing, even if you lie to yourself and say "no, that's not REALLY what I meant/want to happen."