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Exilewhat5 karma
Summarizing your argument here, is it fair to say that you are saying:
- Determined bad actors can get around shadowban (etc.) tooling; and
- Said tooling has an impact on good faith actors as well
I don't dispute this, but any time moderating on the internet makes clear there's a third category: low-effort bad actors (and bots).
Are you saying that these aren't harmed at all by shadowbans (or put differently, saying that shadowbans are never effective)? That they don't learn quickly how to evade hard moderation?
Or are you arguing that the damage done to good faith actors is more significant than the mitigation done to the bots and low-effort trolls? Is this a question of the balance of moderation or a hard statement that shadowbans are never effective?
(Quick edit: I've used reveddit many times before and thank you for creating it as I recognize the value for non-troll users, I just think your position is ill-defined).
Exilewhat-19 karma
So there are people (and bots) with definite and unambiguous hate speech out there. Do you think they should be notified so that they can post that hate speech in a more ambiguous or unmoderatable way?
Put simply, do you think that we should be training the actual bad actors on how to circumvent the rules via sophistry or euphemism?
Exilewhat111 karma
This is the most propagandic answer yet. Wow. There are so many falsehoods here it boggles the brain.
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