DefconDelta88

I still don't understand the question of if you're leaving anything behind. I might just be semi retarded right now, too, though. My answer would be "Well, Canada isn't coming home with me I guess."

I watched a documentary that covered this! There's a huge risk in getting these USBs in, but people do it, and lots of NK citizens watch these shows (many of them have to do it in secret from their own families to avoid getting in trouble). The same thing has been done in Cuba over the years (they have a very, very, very effective weekly system).

Edit: Oooh man, I'm pretty sure it was the documentary on Netflix called "Secret State of North Korea". It was a very good one! I'd have to watch it through to make sure, which I'd be happy to do tomorrow. I watched a bunch of NK docs last year all within a few days of each other, so it's very easy for me to be mistaking it for a different one. I saw the Vice doc as well, and may have also watched the "Inside North Korea" by NatGeo on Netflix, so you can check those out too. All were really interesting watches. The Vice one is a bit exaggerated and dramatic, but it was still a lot of fun.

Fuck that, my vagina stats (-200 virginity) will counteract the effects. Can confirm Daedra armour gets my mojo on. Will donate sex for the cause. And possibly 1 set of lady sized armour.

Fabulous job, chap!

This would be a very interesting thing indeed! I once heard someone say that being proven wrong in science, or failing in an experiment often teaches us LOADS more about what we're looking at than the correct answer in itself. It makes the idea of some idea we have being turned upside down on our heads all the more exciting.

Curious: I've noticed over my many years of being a passionate dog owner, that the best communication is a developed mix of our human signals and verbage, as well as dog communication. Because we have effectively co-evolved with dogs for tens of thousands of years, they are capable of reading our own facial expressions and of course, come to understand our tone/voice communications. The concept of actual words themselves may be irrelevant, but the principal is the same behind both. In my early days of training, I relied heavily on vocal commands, but slowly began to realize that a substantial amount of communication between humans and dogs can be done through facial expressions and subtle movements alone. As my own dogs learn about my communication (tonal/verbal, facial, body language), I in turn learn a substantial amount of their own (also tonal, facial, and body language). In some cases there are signals that dogs use (such as panting when happy, or "sneezing" when playing to communicate a playful attitude) that when incorporated into our "vocabulary" further expands the detailed communication (and understanding) between both humans and dogs.

As I began to explore this relationship, I noticed that many of those signals that dogs use (such as the examples above) are something that even unfamiliar dogs seem to universally understand. For example, when I meet a new dog, I always use the obvious human signals: a wide smile, happy expression, friendly voice) but I also incorporate some of those dog-signals. In the case of friendly panting, I've noticed that this has a profound effect with dogs that are at first somewhat unsure of you, and this doesn't seem to be limited by the age of the dog. If I give a light panting sound, the dog may initially flip its ears back in surprise, but very quickly accepts the gesture as it would from another dog, and the reactions are consistently positive. In most cases, they will be far more inclined to approach or instigate play or bond-building forms of affection. Likewise, when I am playing tug of war, for example, as dogs do, some sneezing and growling can be incorporated, and again the results have been very consistent: I am usually met with a strong tail wag and more intensified playing.

It's been a VERY fascinating ten years or so that I've been just sort of playing around with this information and learning quite a bit. I've always had a good standing with dogs, but since exploring this, that has only increased dramatically. It becomes very easy to instigate play and a friendly relationship with dogs.

That being said, I'm curious what you think about incorporating something similar with primates. Undoubtedly, someone such as yourself is extremely experienced and understands a great deal of their own communication. It makes me curious to learn what sort of non-verbal (or hand-signed) communication is available to both humans and primates that can effectively be applied back and forth, blending our communication into a mold that incorporates both species and signals that both can understand. Much of this takes time and familiarity between individuals, but there also seem to be (at least in the case of dogs) some forms of expression that are easily understood even without personal familiarity.

Thoughts?