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DatBuridansAss179 karma

Can you not? My grandpa actually died in one of Hitler's concentration camps. It was awful. He fell off his guard tower.

DatBuridansAss10 karma

You've referred the the movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind several times already in your other responses. It's one of my favorite movies! What do you personally think of it, both as a film and as a commentary on the possibilities of memory manipulation? How is that film received in your field?

DatBuridansAss9 karma

Warning - Forbidden Opinion Below:

Sorry, but there's a great degree of truth to that first statement. From the Southerners' perspective, it's true, the slavery issue was a big deal. Not across the board, mind you, there was a substantial abolitionist movement in the south, but a large part of the southern economy was agriculture, and obviously very cheap labor was something influential plantation owners were interested in keeping.

BUT

If you think the reason the war itself was waged was primarily to end slavery in the south, you are simply wrong. This is just the cartoon narrative established long after the fact. It isn't as though all the racists were in the south and all the enlightened abolitionists were in the north. As I say, many Southerners were themselves abolitionists, while plenty of northerners, Abraham Lincoln included, believed in white superiority. In the period leading up to the civil war, and even while it was going on, The Fugitive Slave Law was still being enforced by federal (ie northern) marshalls. This meant that the policy of the enlightened north was to capture runaway slaves, return them to their "owners", and prosecute those who gave them food, shelter, or means of travel. All while supposedly fighting this grand war to end this very same evil they were perpetuating. Lincoln himself, the great moral hero, was especially taken with the plan of rounding up all the American slaves and putting them on a boat to Africa, plopping them in the newly created West African nation of Liberia (lib=free, as in freed slaves), just so they wouldn't be in the way anymore. He thought it was unlikely that Blacks and Whites could ever live harmoniously, so that was his solution. In other words, the idea that Lincoln was just fed up with the moral repugnancy that was slavery and therefore simply had to wage a war against his own people that ended up in the deaths of 860,000 is just 7th grade civics textbook level thinking.

While there were indeed many abolitionists in the north, and while there was a growing sentiment against slavery in the US, this was not the main motivation for the civil war. Consider that of all the western nations that practiced and ultimately ended slavery in the 19th century, only the United States and Haiti needed a war to bring the institution to an end. And Haiti was really started by a large slave uprising. But in terms of both the financial cost and of death and destruction, it was far cheaper in all cases for the central governments to simply buy the slaves' freedom. This would have been the case in the US as well.

Instead, the main reason the Union Army invaded the South was obviously to stop the South from seceding. Obviously. It's the reason the British Army invaded the colonies. It's the reason any government brings troops against subjects who are trying to win independence. Only in this case, there was also a wonderful moral justification to whitewash it with. The industrial north didn't want to lose their agricultural base, nor did they want to lose their consumer base. That's a far more important motivation for the civil war.

If you have read this far, congratulations! The downvote button is to the right.

Edited for words.

DatBuridansAss8 karma

I think it might depend on what "age 0" means. If OP is asking if a 9 month old baby can make memories, absolutely. If OP is asking whether a 0 day old newborn just out of the womb has memories, that's probably a lot harder to answer. Prenatal experiences do seem to leave an imprint on the fetus, even if it might be difficult to classify them as memories in the same way that we think about them.

DatBuridansAss7 karma

OP pls call his bluff.