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BillNyeTheMathGuy2 karma

What is your opinion on civil asset forfeiture, warrantless use of stingray devices by police, the entirety of the NSA spying program, and the use of ticket quotas by police depts, to generate revenue?

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Well it's pretty clear that government and law enforcement are involved in citizens business, cellular data., etc. Do you have a plan to reverse that? And what can be done when states outlaw ticket quotas, but the police continue to use them? The current lawsuit in NY by several officers against the NYPD brings up the issue of "who holds govt accountable when it willfully breaks the law it's meant to enforce". How could these departments be made to actually obey a ban on the predatory policing for profit model?

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That seems like a pretty long winded way of saying basically nothing. My point was, ticket quotas are against the law in NY, yet, the members of the NYPD actively break the law by enforcing and participating in said quota system. If, law enforcement actively violates law, who holds them accountable?

And personally, I think the simple answer is to outlaw civil asset forfeiture right off the bat, I mean wars have been fought over the unjust seizure of property. Additionally, offer up community service hours as oppossed to financial payments, at a fair exchange rate, say, the median hourly wage of public sector employees in that town, county, state etc. This will put a dent in the budgets of police depts and court systems, but perhaps we shouldn't be paying judges to convict over seatbelt tickets, or paying law enforcement to say, see how many window tint tickets they can write in a shift. Cut expenses in the judicial system, offer community service options in lue of financial restitution, and absolutely end civil asset forfeiture on day 1. That's a solution and a plan, next we can take those stingray devices and ALPR's to the landfill, and hold the individuals accountable who operated them absent warrants. Ya know, bring back the 4th and 8th amendment rights we lost, in the name of the police pension funds

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In the words of ron paul "social contract!? I didn't sign a damn thing!"

BillNyeTheMathGuy1 karma

Sjw's? I bet you're a clever one RoyMustang :). I imagine you're the kind of guy who rants about loving freedom, yet you simultaneously support a candidate who openly called for the systematic removal of free expression, at the governments sole discretion. "I luv freedumb, Imma vote for da guy who wants to restrict ma free dumb". Clever.