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Battess25 karma

This separation of the “good” versions of feminism from third - wave feminism represents a continued misreading of contemporary feminism as anti-men, anti-cisgendered people, and intellectually unfounded.

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[Christina Hoff Summers] misrepresents the goals of contemporary feminism by framing them as an all-out assault on men, rather than a critical consideration of how gender and race influence structures of power, media, and social relations.

What makes the following two ideas-

a) Feminism is, ideally, a critical consideration of how gender and race influence structures of power, media, and social relations.

b) The activities of many feminists and feminist groups/spaces, especially on Reddit, actually are anti-men, anti-cisgendered people, and intellectually unfounded.

-mutually exclusive? Just because you've studied the ideal form of feminism doesn't mean the non-ideal form doesn't exist and isn't creating harm worth pointing out. It's like if you bought a spill-proof thermos which then spilled all over the floor, would you deny the spill was there by arguing that the package said spill-proof? No, the problem is still there.

Battess10 karma

Its like how many Christians will tell you that all you need to do to become a Christian is "accept Jesus into your heart and ask forgiveness for your sins". Its that easy! Except afterwards over time you're told have to get baptized, start tithing, vote a certain way, stop a growing list of activities, and so on.

Feminism can be like that- all you have to do is believe in gender equality. But also patriarchy, intersectionality, rape culture, the "power & privilege"/"punching up" double standards, certain ways of thinking about "problematic" media, and so on.

Battess9 karma

I'm not sure how we could determine that prevalence objectively. All I can go on is my own experience with self-proclaimed feminists, and same for anyone else. But hateful feminism is still an issue, whether relatively big or small, and criticizing the bad parts of feminism isn't the same as being misogynistic etc. no matter how often we're told it is.

Battess8 karma

You can define yourself outside of feminism, but while doing so you reject the inherent tenet that feminism promotes: equality for women.

Can one reject everything about feminism except that tenet and still be considered a feminist, and/or escape being called "problematic" in that sense?

If so why do you seem skeptical of Christina Hoff Sommers self-identification as a feminist?