Allydarvel
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Allydarvel89 karma
IMHO In the 80s, Scotland had a torrid time. We comforted ourselves with the fact that Labour would be back and times would get better. When it did eventually happen in the mid 90s..we got Blair. Blair who admired Thatcher, who got involved with illegal wars, who spent more time listening to Murdoch than us, who was 'business friendly', who was to all intents and purposes a Tory. We'd been waiting all this time and that's what we got.
I think this is what started the movement for a lot of people, it's been slowly building over time. We have no choice anymore. We can have Cameron, or we can have Miliband. Sorry, we want neither. Both parties hug the centre right area and try to outdo each other on minute differences instead of representing the people that elected them.
Cameron has spent his time bringing in laws that benefit the south east, and some like the bedroom tax that actively hurt Scotland. Miliband, more of the same. Their worries are house prices and availability in the south east. Guaranteeing mortgage deposits, HS2, Crossrail, where's London's next airport going to be, protecting the city at the expense of the country, creating jobs in the south east, being tough on immigration while Scotland needs people.
Our priorities are different and neither party represents our worries. The north of England and Wales and Northern Ireland are similar to us. Wales and NI haven't a good enough economy and north England don't have a choice.
I'm a Scot who is living in Kent
Allydarvel53 karma
EU's attitude of making the UK suffer for deciding to leave?
You said protecting its own interests wrong. The EU has been very patient with the UK, especially given what UK politicians have been saying. The deal the UK can get is restricted by its own red lines. There's no punishment
Allydarvel26 karma
We tried mate, we've been hanging in there voting Labour in for forever. Look at Scotland now for a blueprint how to change things for yourselves. A grass roots social movement has closed a 20 odd point gap to almost nothing against the establishment and the media with nothing more than enthusiasm, Twitter and Facebook.
I've lived in Leeds, and I know things in the north ain't much better than Scotland. Politicians don't want you to vote. Best way to get back at them is to make sure you are involved and vote in everything. Join a party, don't vote for the new Labour shill, vote for the person who represents you.
Like you guys, we saw the Blairs, the Browns and the Darlings take over our party and dilute it to a carbon copy of the Tories. Now enough is enough.
Allydarvel25 karma
Ouch..Scotland isn't a British territory. Territories like the Falklands and Gibraltar are quite chaotic at the moment as Spain has a veto over any EU deal and Argentina could be able to block the UK's WTO terms.
Scotland and other UK countries are being dragged along for the ride. The Scottish governmnet htried to have another vote to leave the UK, but the prime minister wouldn't allow it. Scottish people seem pissed off with direct democracy, so it may not have ended well
Allydarvel124 karma
I loved the book. Bryson has a talent for bringing places alive
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