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I’m Det. Greg Kading, expert on the multiple investigations into the murders of Tupac and Biggie. AMA!
Hello, Reddit - I’m Greg Kading, former LAPD officer assigned to solve the homicides of Biggie Smalls and Tupac Shakur, author of "Murder Rap," and co-executive producer of USA Network’s newest crime drama Unsolved: The Murders of Tupac and The Notorious B.I.G (premieres 2/27 at 10/9c). Have questions about these legendary cases? AMA!
Check out the trailer for Unsolved here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwWseOmWNS8
Proof: https://twitter.com/GregKading/status/965826465152446464
Thank you so much for these great questions! Signing off for now, but there's plenty more to the story. Don't miss Unsolved: The Murders of Tupac and The Notorious B.I.G. on USA Network, Feb. 27th at 10/9c!
R1ckJamesBitch14 karma
No, I'm asking if he anything to do with the dude who killed Pac. Like did Suge have anything to do with his death?
DetKading35 karma
No. Orlando Anderson, Tupac's killer, was killed in an unrelated gang shootout about 18 months later. However, Suge put a green light against Orlando's entire gang, the Southside Crips.
DetKading31 karma
In the gang culture, it's not as easy as one might think to hunt down and kill an individual. You go after the gang, especially when multiple members of the gang were responsible. Orlando knew he was a target, which makes getting at him that much more difficult.
DetKading47 karma
It was a natural progression...as the investigator assigned to look into Biggies murder, I was able to learn about both murders.
DetKading73 karma
I dont think:) I know. Tupac was shot and killed by Orlando Anderson. There were at least four other co-conspirators.
DetKading85 karma
Good question. Unfortunately, by the time we had factual proof, Orlando was already dead from an unrelated gang shooting
Baresark14 karma
Was it a retaliation thing? How closely connected were the shootings? I was a huge 2pac fan and at the time was convinced Biggy had arranged it. After Biggy was killed, I became convinced that it was Puff who had had them both offed as a way to further his career. 16-17 Yr old me was very much on the 2pac side haha
DetKading44 karma
Biggie was absolutely retaliation for Tupac's murder, so the murders are definitely linked. Big had nothing to do with any of it outside of the war of words with Tupac.
Baresark9 karma
But from the trailer to your show, it suggests that behind all the words, they were still friends. Is this true? That would actually be kinda nice.
DetKading23 karma
They started out as friends. After Tupac was beaten and shot at the Quad Studios in NY, they fell out and Pac went to jail. Once Pac signed on with Suge, reconciliation wasn't going to happen.
Baresark2 karma
Ah man. I knew they started out as friends... But I was kinda hoping that things like "Hit 'em up" was just marketing for a moment there
DetKading21 karma
The beef was real, as was the war of words, however the media certainly helped fuel the fire.
AfraidCity16 karma
Had you ever listened to their music and/or identified as a fan before this investigation?
DetKading39 karma
To be honest, I knew of them, but I was not a rap music fan. Since becoming involved, I've learned to appreciate their music, as well as the genre.
ActionImagination16 karma
Do you think this investigation has affected the music industry? If yes, how so?
DetKading30 karma
Absolutely. These were legends in the industry. When they were killed, I think that made the beefs so real that people were dying, and gave everybody pause. And we can only imagine how big they would be today.
andrewmulrooney15 karma
Hi Greg, I’ve read Murder Rap and also watched the Doc too. Very insightful. Seeing as Suge is already in prison can charges now be brought against him for having Biggie killed? Also, how has Puff Daddy got away with it all this time?
DetKading23 karma
In theory, Suge could be charged. But in practicality, it will never happen. Same with Puffy. Puffy has made very good use of his lawyers over the years to insulate him from interrogation.
andrewmulrooney6 karma
Ahh I see. Was Orlando Anderson in the MGM the night 2Pac got shot to basically bait him and Death Row into a fight?
I’ve heard stories about Orlando before both his and 2Pac’s murders and it sounds like he was WILD in the streets.
DetKading16 karma
He was not there to bait anybody. He was in Vegas with his crew, which was common for them to go there for the fights. He was already a suspect in other murders, and had a reputation for being a shooter in his gang. And when he was killed, he took two more people with him.
DetKading24 karma
Its crazy...hes such a good guy and so committed to getting it right. Im so proud and honored by him and the entire cast.
DetKading18 karma
Surreal. I'm so thankful to all of the people who supported the telling of this story. I think the public will finally get what they've been looking for for over 20 years.
ballamg9284 karma
What kind of relationship did you have with either Tupac's or Biggie's family throughout your investigation?
DetKading14 karma
I did not have direct interaction with them during the investigation. I came to know them afterwards. After I retired, I formed a friendship with Voletta Wallace, as well as Tupac's cousin, William Lesane, and brother, Mopreme, who assisted with Unsolved.
thezachman1613 karma
In your opinion, how seriously should people take Diddy's involvement in these murders? It's more than public knowledge that Crips and Keffe D were involved, but the money and motive had to start somehwere
DetKading25 karma
It's important to understand the nuances of Puffy's involvement. His association with the Crips exacerbated an already problematic conflict between him and Suge Knight. Puffy was in fear for his life. Understanding that helps explain whatever actions he may have taken.
DetKading30 karma
Keffe D for Tupac's murder, and Suge's baby mama, "Theresa Swann," for Biggie's murder.
DetKading33 karma
Due to the fact that the shooter is dead, and Suge's baby mama and co-conspirator cannot be forced to testify against him, it leaves the case un-prosecutable.
DetKading33 karma
Suge is in jail awaiting trial for running over and killing Terry Carter in Compton.
cocoj10111 karma
Has anyone come to you confessing to the crime? Or have you been led down false paths?
DetKading21 karma
Yes. We have confessions for both murders. However, there were A LOT of false paths over the years.
DetKading24 karma
As time goes on, more and more people are corroborating what we already know. Since I went public with our findings, more people associated with these cases have come forward, some privately and some publicly, who wouldn't have before.
DetKading13 karma
My book, Murder Rap, and our documentary, also called Murder Rap (which is on iTunes, Google Play, Amazon Prime, etc.), and also the current BET series called "Death Row Chronicles," which premiered last night and continues airing tonight and tomorrow. All of which substantiates what you'll see in Unsolved.
R1ckJamesBitch11 karma
Did you watch the show with Ice-T of who killed Biggie and Tupac? And if so, how accurate was it? Were you on that?
DetKading24 karma
It was very superficial. They seemed more interested in shock value than facts. Furthermore, they completely lied about my "failure to appear" in their show.
DetKading19 karma
I couldn't make it to set the day that they wanted me, and then they weren't willing to reschedule.
EnoughSheepherder10 karma
Why do you think it's taken so long for these cases to be solved?
DetKading28 karma
Several reasons, but mostly lack of cooperation by witnesses, particularly Suge Knight.
EnoughSheepherder7 karma
What would the investigators need today to be able to close the case? Do you think the case will ever be closed?
DetKading27 karma
The cases are "solved" but are un-prosecutable. Most of the co-conspirators in both murders are dead.
Treasonaire9 karma
What was the motive behind Tupac’s killing? I know you said Biggie was killed out of retaliation.
My apologies if you’ve answered this already.
DetKading15 karma
It was the culmination of an ongoing beef between CEOs, rappers, and their affiliated gangs, that was triggered that night by the fight between Tupac and Orlando Anderson at the MGM.
DetKading19 karma
How both complicated and simple it was at the same time. And how both murders were so unnecessary and senseless.
DetKading54 karma
They had different styles IMO, so its hard to draw a comparison. Biggies flow was sick, but Pacs content was deeper
QuinoaQT6 karma
Was there any sort of LAPD cover-up from Det. Poole's initial investigation of the case?
DetKading10 karma
No. There were multiple inquiries into that theory by multiple agencies, including the FBI. No evidence was discovered to support Poole's theory. Even Poole eventually changed his position.
DetKading14 karma
Mopreme was on set during filming of Unsolved. And I stay in touch with Pac's cousin William Lesane. I speak to Voletta Wallace (Biggie's mother) occasionally.
DetKading19 karma
Absolutely. If Tupac hadn't been killed, Biggie wouldn't have been, either.
saintmillie875 karma
With the murders being so well-known and culturally important, was it hard to go into it without bias?
DetKading14 karma
Not at all. I had been conducting gang murder investigations for years. We always treated victims as victims. However, being high-profile celebrity murders brought new challenges.
DetKading17 karma
I got to know Voletta on a personal level..shes a beautiful and graceful human being...shes also a victim of all this. She was my primary motivation in the case.
HelloFriend314 karma
There have been a lot of documentaries and movies about Biggie & Tupac and the murders. What do you think is the most unique aspect of Unsolved compared to those?
DetKading13 karma
It's an entirely different way of telling the story. It's not a biopic and it's not a documentary. It tells the story of Biggie and Tupac's friendship, which has never really been told before. And it goes inside both of the investigations, whereas most projects have always been on the outside of that. And we also had the luxury of having 10 hours to tell this story, as opposed to just one film.
ActionImagination3 karma
What do you think of all the conspiracy theories out there? Do you think they're keeping the case open?
DetKading12 karma
The public will always be fascinated with conspiracy theories. However, the purpose of an investigation is to dismantle false theories, which we did. The cases are internally solved, but because they can't be prosecuted, it's the public's perception that they aren't solved.
penguiin_6 karma
How do you mean internally solved? Like yep, they got murdered alright or there’s a prime suspect?
DetKading11 karma
Investigators have conclusive evidence. However, due to the time that's passed and the deaths of most of the co-conspirators, the cases can't practically be prosecuted. So the cases are now archived.
DetKading6 karma
After the Murder Rap documentary, I was approached by the creator of Unsolved, who wanted to collaborate on the project.
DetKading7 karma
Because it rocks! Also, the story has NEVER been told like this before. Its always been documentaries...this is entirely different.
AfraidCity2 karma
Should I watch Unsolved? How accurate is the depiction of the story as compared to others?
DetKading5 karma
It's incredibly accurate. Of course, some dramatic license has to be taken to compress 20 years into 10 episodes. Everybody was committed to getting it right, and I was on set most of the days.
RadarzizBuzzin33 karma
Did Suge Knight had any knowledge of the possibility of Tupac getting shot?
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