Here is the story…..

Everyone has been asking me what I thought about famous controversial artist Richard Prince taking a series of SuicideGirls instagram posts and printing them out and selling them at a recent gallery show at the gagosian gallery of beverly hills for $90,000 a piece.

My first thought was I don’t know anyone who can spend $90,000 on anything other than a house. Maybe I know a few people who can spend it on a car. As to the copyright issue? If I had a nickel for every time someone used our images without our permission in a commercial endeavour I’d be able to spend $90,000 on art. I was once really annoyed by Forever 21 selling shirts with our slightly altered images on them, but an Artist?

Richard Prince is an artist and he found the images we and our girls publish on instagram as representative of something worth commenting on, part of the zeitgeist, I guess? Thanks Richard!

Do we have Mr. Prince’s permission to sell these prints? We have the same permission from him that he had from us. ;)

I’m just bummed that his art is out of reach for people like me and the people portrayed in the art he is selling.

So we at SuicideGirls are going to sell the exact same prints people payed $90,000 for $90 each.

I hope you love them. Beautiful Art, 99.9% off the original price. ;)

https://suicidegirls.com/shop/instagram-art-1/ https://suicidegirls.com/shop/instagram-art-2/ https://suicidegirls.com/shop/instagram-art-3/ https://suicidegirls.com/shop/instagram-art-4/ https://suicidegirls.com/shop/instagram-art-5/

We will be donating the profits from sales to EFF.org Urban art publisher Eyes On Walls (EyesOnWalls.com) is supporting the project by fulfilling the large canvas reproductions at cost. AMA!

PROOF: https://twitter.com/SuicideGirls/status/603651365722808320

EDIT: Thanks for all the questions and nice words about SG I'm done after 7 hours. :)

HERE IS MY REPLY TO THE QUESTIONS I DIDN'T GET TO :)

I am really sorry I was not trying to dodge any questions, I DID actually reply to the top question initially my reply is just buried. :) I answered questions for 7 hours and the ones that were at the top during that time were about the Richard Prince issue I set up my IAMA about. These comments and upvotes came up after I had signed off so I missed them but can answer them now in more detail.

About 10 years ago a handful of the thousands of models on my site felt slighted and went to a competitor site. We were sad to see them go, they were friends, it sucked, it felt personal and it hurt and it was lame. We handled things the way that we felt at the time was best, but would we do the same things now, probably not. We learned from the experience and in the ensuing decade people have come and gone largely without incident, we get it, life changes, interests change, dreams and goals shift and girls and photographers leave. Most of the time amiably, occasionally not, but I genuinely wish everyone well.

The non-compete clause, honestly when I started the company I went off of Playboy’s release form, I was 24 had never done this before and thought that seemed like the industry standard. We thought it was too confusing when it was challenged and we changed our release form in 2006 and it has been the same super simple, clear easy to read contract since then you can see it here - https://gmail123456.box.com/s/qbmj1f9pr3w8w8wzaj5e My intent is not to fuck anyone over, if someone decides to model for a competitor I wish them well and we part ways, end of story.

We are up front about our policies, pay scale and use of images, if you are interested you can see the answers to most questions here: https://suicidegirls.com/model/faq/ or here https://suicidegirls.com/model/faq/photographer/ And if you need further clarification we have a 3 person staff to answer your questions, they can be directed to either [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected] If you don’t think it is a good deal for you, I get it, no hard feelings but that is what we pay and what we ask.

We have had thousands of models and photographers who have had great experiences working with us here are some links that detail their experiences - https://suicidegirls.com/members/sunshine/blog/2815185/10-years-on-suicidegirls/ https://suicidegirls.com/members/albertine/blog/2754147/a-decade/ https://suicidegirls.com/members/liryc/blog/2815073/life-after-becoming-a-suicidegirl/ https://suicidegirls.com/members/vayda/blog/2816598/sghw-how-has-sg-changed-your-life/

And a few who’ve had complicated experiences that spark discourse (read the comments) - https://suicidegirls.com/members/dwam/blog/2819390/so-how-has-sg-changed-my-life/

Then there are some who have not had great experiences and felt slighted by us, and it sucks that we can’t reach an accord. Lithium Picnic was someone who we had a disagreement with and it took time to reach an agreement. We eventually did settle things and he has moved on and so have we and I genuinely hope that he is doing well.

We get that what we do is not for everyone. We try to provide a platform where people can express themselves in a supportive community and connect with like minded people. We try to be upfront with our expectations but sometimes people don’t agree with what we do or decisions and there is an impasse. Sometimes I am wrong and sometimes I fuck up and I make the wrong call and the only thing to do is to try to learn from my mistakes. I have also learned that there are sometimes though you just can’t make people happy no matter what you do. I am trying to be a better person every day though but some days are better than others. Generally though my reputation amongst those who have actually dealt with me in the past is positive despite what it says about me on wikipedia and I have gone through enough therapy that I am okay with that. :)

Finally you would once again like to use this opportunity to question my involvement with the company, alright I can answer that too (even if it is so fucking sexist it makes me want to scream, no man would ever have to defend his position in his own fucking company 14+ years in) Yeah Sean is my partner and has been since we started the company and he is a pretty cool dude most of the time ;) He does council me and we do make decisions together and he is very particular about design and he and Courtney Riot who has worked with us for 12 years pretty much do all of that. I run the day to day operations of the company, ask my staff, ask the models who come by the office, or look at my nearly 15 years of ever present history. My staff is overwhelmingly female and I am female so that is where the female run thing comes from, because it IS female run. I do press because I am in the office everyday and started and run the company.

I really hope that answers all of the questions, I honestly did not mean to dodge them and I hope that you enjoy turning the tables on Richard Prince with us. That is getting WAY more attention than I anticipated and I am going to be a bit swamped for the next few days, so I probably won’t be able to engage in follow up questions here but if you need something answered you can e-mail me, I will reply, eventually :)

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Frajer198 karma

where did the name Suicide Girls come from?

SuicideGirls794 karma

Imagine this is a long complicated story of me seeing a naked woman hanging from a tree as a teen but then it ends with the pastor at her funeral being the loch ness monster and asking for tree fiddy.

AKMofo523 karma

Apparently you've been here before.

SuicideGirls572 karma

I still have nightmares about the cumbox.

RyndenLothfolk55 karma

Have you ever thought about other ventures besides SG?

SuicideGirls266 karma

Hank and Dean sometimes and once in a while Rusty.

two_off22 karma

How many have you sold?

SuicideGirls54 karma

I won't know until 12am tonight when the sales report sold. I don't really care how many we sold, I just want the people who spent $90k on it to know they could have gotten the same thing fro $90. :P

NorbitGorbit8 karma

where have you shopped around in terms of making nice-looking prints from your photos? do you know which service richard prince used?

SuicideGirls22 karma

We are using Eyes on Walls, a great printer we have worked with before. We are using the exact same method and materials ad Mr. Prince did, Inkjet on Canvas. Of course we had the original hires images to work from, where as he only had the lo-res instagram images. I bet ours look better.

darbymcsanchez7 karma

If you were a guy for a day, what 5 things would you try to experience?

SuicideGirls26 karma

  1. Peeing standing up
  2. Sex
  3. Freely give my opinion and not be considered a bitch.

After that from what I have heard I would probably spend the rest of the day fondling myself.

Medfly702 karma

Mehdi is the coolest. True or False? You have a 50/50 shot at this. Don't blow it.

SuicideGirls2 karma

True true <3

musicfreek932 karma

Hi and thank you for doing this ama. My girlfriend and I love the posts and she actually wanted to know how to apply to be a suicide girl. Do you happen to have any tips for her?

SuicideGirls1 karma

  1. Submit clear photos that accurately represent you with your application.
  2. Work with a photographer that you are comfortable with.
  3. Listen to your favorite music when you shoot the set.
  4. Pick a location and set theme that means something to you and helps convey your personality and interests.
  5. Have fun!

Right_All_The_Time1 karma

Hey Missy? Have you not done any individual sets of your own? Went looking through your pics and it's all group activities from way back.

SuicideGirls1 karma

I wish I had the confidence to get in from of the camera when I first started the site. Now I feel like it is too late, who knows though maybe for my 40th (we still have some time on that)

Zacoftheaxes-4 karma

Would you rather right one Richard Prince sized duck or 100 duck sized Richard Princes?

SuicideGirls5 karma

1 richard prince sized duck, I would make friends and he would fly me around like Falkor and Atreyu.